Brewster wrote an interesting post on the open Content Alliance blog noting that Google would prefer copyright reform (read: orphan works legislation) over the current scenario:
http://www.opencontentalliance.org/2009/09/12/congressmen-and-google-supports-legislation-as-more-equitable-solution-than-settlement/ ~ ~ ~ thoughts / http://fredbenenson.com/blog work / http://creativecommons.org sights / http://flickr.com/fcb sounds / http://www.last.fm/user/mecredis status / http://twitter.com/mecredis On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 12:28 PM, Matt Senate <[email protected]>wrote: > I just went to this conference held at UC Berkeley: > > http://www.ischool.berkeley.edu/newsandevents/events/20090828googlebooksconference > > Some of the main voices criticizing the settlement were indeed > Samuelson, but also Peter Brantley from Internet Archive, Geoffrey > Nunberg of UCB's ischool and NPR fame, the Samuelson Clinic's Director > Jason Schultz, and James Love from Knowledge Ecology International. I > thought James Love and Pam Samuelson very eloquent on the subject. > Geoffrey Nunberg feared that google books would become the "last > library" -- for many reasons, including the fact that the high cost for > scanning books will probably not be undertaken again, so these are the > digitial copies we'll be using for quite some time, and also there are a > number of problems with the ways in which google organizes and displays > book data (which he claims is insufficient compared to library standards). > > I meant to put together a blog post about the event and about the Google > Settlement in general for the SFC blog, but alas, the woes of being a > full-time student. Let me know if anyone wants a more detailed outline > of the talk, if so maybe I'll throw something short together. > > - Matt > FC @ Berkeley > > Kevin Donovan wrote: > > I think it might be a good idea to reach out to some of the most vocal > > observers (pro- and anti-settlement) and ask them for short pieces on > > why students should care. We can feature these on the blog. > > > > Anyone have names? I'd start with Grimmelman and Pam Samuelson. > > Others? And does anyone have relationships with them to reach out to > them? > > > > On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Elizabeth Stark <[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > And the post is authored by our friend Derek Slater... > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 7:52 PM, Alex Kozak > > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > > wrote: > > > > I don't think we have. I know a lot of people have strong > > feelings about it. Thinking strategically without getting into > > the settlement, I think we should as much as possible try to > > be pragmatic about it and only object or support specific > > ideas or terms rather than support or challenge it wholesale. > > > > In my personal opinion, it's also particularly important that > > we don't frame the issue in terms of tired worn out > > commitments and ideologies (specifically, for-profit vs. > > non-profit or commercial vs. non-commercial). What do you all > > think though? > > > > - Alex > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Gavin Baker > > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > > http://googlepublicpolicy.blogspot.com/2009/09/voices-of-support-for-google-books.html > > > > "Yesterday, we took part in another call with even more > > groups, > > including the ... United States Students Association and > > others, who > > together voiced their support for the [Google Books] > > agreement." > > > > Have other student groups (e.g. SFC) weighed in on the > > Google Books > > settlement? > > > > -- > > Gavin Baker > > http://www.gavinbaker.com/ > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > > > We must learn to live together as brothers or perish > > together as fools. > > Martin Luther King, Jr. > > _______________________________________________ > > Discuss mailing list > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Alex Kozak > > Education Program Assistant > > ccLearn, Creative Commons > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Discuss mailing list > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Discuss mailing list > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Kevin Donovan > > Georgetown '11: SFS > > SA Phone: 082.311.8512 > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Discuss mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > [email protected] > http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss >
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