She's written on the topic before. Here's a recent Huff Post piece (don't have any papers on the subject atm): http://www.huffingtonpost.com/pamela-samuelson/why-is-the-antitrust-divi_b_258997.html
She appears to take a more moderate criticism of the project than Siva by criticizing Google's license and competitive advantage over orphaned works. FWIW, I also like this article on the settlement: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/pamela-samuelson/why-is-the-antitrust-divi_b_258997.html "While issues inherent in our current system of copyright law, including orphaned works, will continue to impede access, none of these problems is increased by the settlement.", which is something I agree with. - Alex On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 10:10 PM, Elizabeth Stark <[email protected]> wrote: > I talked to Samuelson for FC2008. > > On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:21 PM, Matt Senate <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Who talked to Samuelson for FC2008? Maybe Ben can contact her? I suppose >> I could meet her in person if that's necessary. >> >> - Matt Senate >> >> f...@berkeley >> >> Kevin Donovan wrote: >> > Siva is over-booked as it is. Pinged Derek & James and awaiting >> > response. Anyone know Brewster or Samuelson and want to email them? >> > Otherwise I'll do it as a stranger. >> > >> > On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 6:30 PM, Fred Benenson <[email protected] >> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> > >> > Brewster wrote an interesting post on the open Content Alliance >> > blog noting that Google would prefer copyright reform (read: >> > orphan works legislation) over the current scenario: >> > >> > >> http://www.opencontentalliance.org/2009/09/12/congressmen-and-google-supports-legislation-as-more-equitable-solution-than-settlement/ >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ~ ~ ~ >> > thoughts / http://fredbenenson.com/blog >> > work / http://creativecommons.org >> > sights / http://flickr.com/fcb >> > sounds / http://www.last.fm/user/mecredis >> > status / http://twitter.com/mecredis >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 12:28 PM, Matt Senate >> > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> > >> > I just went to this conference held at UC Berkeley: >> > >> http://www.ischool.berkeley.edu/newsandevents/events/20090828googlebooksconference >> > >> > Some of the main voices criticizing the settlement were indeed >> > Samuelson, but also Peter Brantley from Internet Archive, >> Geoffrey >> > Nunberg of UCB's ischool and NPR fame, the Samuelson Clinic's >> > Director >> > Jason Schultz, and James Love from Knowledge Ecology >> > International. I >> > thought James Love and Pam Samuelson very eloquent on the >> subject. >> > Geoffrey Nunberg feared that google books would become the "last >> > library" -- for many reasons, including the fact that the high >> > cost for >> > scanning books will probably not be undertaken again, so these >> > are the >> > digitial copies we'll be using for quite some time, and also >> > there are a >> > number of problems with the ways in which google organizes and >> > displays >> > book data (which he claims is insufficient compared to library >> > standards). >> > >> > I meant to put together a blog post about the event and about >> > the Google >> > Settlement in general for the SFC blog, but alas, the woes of >> > being a >> > full-time student. Let me know if anyone wants a more detailed >> > outline >> > of the talk, if so maybe I'll throw something short together. >> > >> > - Matt >> > FC @ Berkeley >> > >> > Kevin Donovan wrote: >> > > I think it might be a good idea to reach out to some of the >> > most vocal >> > > observers (pro- and anti-settlement) and ask them for short >> > pieces on >> > > why students should care. We can feature these on the blog. >> > > >> > > Anyone have names? I'd start with Grimmelman and Pam >> Samuelson. >> > > Others? And does anyone have relationships with them to >> > reach out to them? >> > > >> > > On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Elizabeth Stark >> > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> > > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote: >> > > >> > > And the post is authored by our friend Derek Slater... >> > > >> > > >> > > On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 7:52 PM, Alex Kozak >> > > <[email protected] >> > <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] >> > <mailto:[email protected]>>> >> > > wrote: >> > > >> > > I don't think we have. I know a lot of people have >> > strong >> > > feelings about it. Thinking strategically without >> > getting into >> > > the settlement, I think we should as much as >> > possible try to >> > > be pragmatic about it and only object or support >> > specific >> > > ideas or terms rather than support or challenge it >> > wholesale. >> > > >> > > In my personal opinion, it's also particularly >> > important that >> > > we don't frame the issue in terms of tired worn out >> > > commitments and ideologies (specifically, for-profit >> vs. >> > > non-profit or commercial vs. non-commercial). What >> > do you all >> > > think though? >> > > >> > > - Alex >> > > >> > > >> > > On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Gavin Baker >> > > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> >> > wrote: >> > > >> > > >> > >> http://googlepublicpolicy.blogspot.com/2009/09/voices-of-support-for-google-books.html >> > > >> > > "Yesterday, we took part in another call with >> > even more >> > > groups, >> > > including the ... United States Students >> > Association and >> > > others, who >> > > together voiced their support for the [Google >> Books] >> > > agreement." >> > > >> > > Have other student groups (e.g. SFC) weighed in >> > on the >> > > Google Books >> > > settlement? >> > > >> > > -- >> > > Gavin Baker >> > > http://www.gavinbaker.com/ >> > > [email protected] >> > <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] >> > <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > > >> > > We must learn to live together as brothers or >> perish >> > > together as fools. >> > > Martin Luther King, Jr. >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Discuss mailing list >> > > [email protected] >> > <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected] >> >> >> > > >> > http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > -- >> > > Alex Kozak >> > > Education Program Assistant >> > > ccLearn, Creative Commons >> > > >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Discuss mailing list >> > > [email protected] >> > <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected] >> >> >> > > >> http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Discuss mailing list >> > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected] >> >> >> > > http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > -- >> > > Kevin Donovan >> > > Georgetown '11: SFS >> > > SA Phone: 082.311.8512 >> > > >> > > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Discuss mailing list >> > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> > > http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Discuss mailing list >> > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> > http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Discuss mailing list >> > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> > http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Kevin Donovan >> > Georgetown '11: SFS >> > SA Phone: 082.311.8512 >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Discuss mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> Discuss mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > [email protected] > http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > -- Alex Kozak Education Program Assistant ccLearn, Creative Commons
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