Siva is over-booked as it is. Pinged Derek & James and awaiting response. Anyone know Brewster or Samuelson and want to email them? Otherwise I'll do it as a stranger.
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 6:30 PM, Fred Benenson <[email protected]> wrote: > Brewster wrote an interesting post on the open Content Alliance blog noting > that Google would prefer copyright reform (read: orphan works legislation) > over the current scenario: > > > http://www.opencontentalliance.org/2009/09/12/congressmen-and-google-supports-legislation-as-more-equitable-solution-than-settlement/ > > > > > ~ ~ ~ > thoughts / http://fredbenenson.com/blog > work / http://creativecommons.org > sights / http://flickr.com/fcb > sounds / http://www.last.fm/user/mecredis > status / http://twitter.com/mecredis > > > > > On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 12:28 PM, Matt Senate <[email protected]>wrote: > >> I just went to this conference held at UC Berkeley: >> >> http://www.ischool.berkeley.edu/newsandevents/events/20090828googlebooksconference >> >> Some of the main voices criticizing the settlement were indeed >> Samuelson, but also Peter Brantley from Internet Archive, Geoffrey >> Nunberg of UCB's ischool and NPR fame, the Samuelson Clinic's Director >> Jason Schultz, and James Love from Knowledge Ecology International. I >> thought James Love and Pam Samuelson very eloquent on the subject. >> Geoffrey Nunberg feared that google books would become the "last >> library" -- for many reasons, including the fact that the high cost for >> scanning books will probably not be undertaken again, so these are the >> digitial copies we'll be using for quite some time, and also there are a >> number of problems with the ways in which google organizes and displays >> book data (which he claims is insufficient compared to library standards). >> >> I meant to put together a blog post about the event and about the Google >> Settlement in general for the SFC blog, but alas, the woes of being a >> full-time student. Let me know if anyone wants a more detailed outline >> of the talk, if so maybe I'll throw something short together. >> >> - Matt >> FC @ Berkeley >> >> Kevin Donovan wrote: >> > I think it might be a good idea to reach out to some of the most vocal >> > observers (pro- and anti-settlement) and ask them for short pieces on >> > why students should care. We can feature these on the blog. >> > >> > Anyone have names? I'd start with Grimmelman and Pam Samuelson. >> > Others? And does anyone have relationships with them to reach out to >> them? >> > >> > On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Elizabeth Stark <[email protected] >> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> > >> > And the post is authored by our friend Derek Slater... >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 7:52 PM, Alex Kozak >> > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> > wrote: >> > >> > I don't think we have. I know a lot of people have strong >> > feelings about it. Thinking strategically without getting into >> > the settlement, I think we should as much as possible try to >> > be pragmatic about it and only object or support specific >> > ideas or terms rather than support or challenge it wholesale. >> > >> > In my personal opinion, it's also particularly important that >> > we don't frame the issue in terms of tired worn out >> > commitments and ideologies (specifically, for-profit vs. >> > non-profit or commercial vs. non-commercial). What do you all >> > think though? >> > >> > - Alex >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Gavin Baker >> > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> > >> > >> http://googlepublicpolicy.blogspot.com/2009/09/voices-of-support-for-google-books.html >> > >> > "Yesterday, we took part in another call with even more >> > groups, >> > including the ... United States Students Association and >> > others, who >> > together voiced their support for the [Google Books] >> > agreement." >> > >> > Have other student groups (e.g. SFC) weighed in on the >> > Google Books >> > settlement? >> > >> > -- >> > Gavin Baker >> > http://www.gavinbaker.com/ >> > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> > >> > We must learn to live together as brothers or perish >> > together as fools. >> > Martin Luther King, Jr. >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Discuss mailing list >> > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> > http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Alex Kozak >> > Education Program Assistant >> > ccLearn, Creative Commons >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Discuss mailing list >> > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> > http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Discuss mailing list >> > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> > http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Kevin Donovan >> > Georgetown '11: SFS >> > SA Phone: 082.311.8512 >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Discuss mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> Discuss mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > [email protected] > http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > -- Kevin Donovan Georgetown '11: SFS SA Phone: 082.311.8512
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