I talked to Samuelson for FC2008. On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:21 PM, Matt Senate <[email protected]>wrote:
> Who talked to Samuelson for FC2008? Maybe Ben can contact her? I suppose > I could meet her in person if that's necessary. > > - Matt Senate > > f...@berkeley > > Kevin Donovan wrote: > > Siva is over-booked as it is. Pinged Derek & James and awaiting > > response. Anyone know Brewster or Samuelson and want to email them? > > Otherwise I'll do it as a stranger. > > > > On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 6:30 PM, Fred Benenson <[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > Brewster wrote an interesting post on the open Content Alliance > > blog noting that Google would prefer copyright reform (read: > > orphan works legislation) over the current scenario: > > > > > http://www.opencontentalliance.org/2009/09/12/congressmen-and-google-supports-legislation-as-more-equitable-solution-than-settlement/ > > > > > > > > > > ~ ~ ~ > > thoughts / http://fredbenenson.com/blog > > work / http://creativecommons.org > > sights / http://flickr.com/fcb > > sounds / http://www.last.fm/user/mecredis > > status / http://twitter.com/mecredis > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 12:28 PM, Matt Senate > > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > I just went to this conference held at UC Berkeley: > > > http://www.ischool.berkeley.edu/newsandevents/events/20090828googlebooksconference > > > > Some of the main voices criticizing the settlement were indeed > > Samuelson, but also Peter Brantley from Internet Archive, > Geoffrey > > Nunberg of UCB's ischool and NPR fame, the Samuelson Clinic's > > Director > > Jason Schultz, and James Love from Knowledge Ecology > > International. I > > thought James Love and Pam Samuelson very eloquent on the > subject. > > Geoffrey Nunberg feared that google books would become the "last > > library" -- for many reasons, including the fact that the high > > cost for > > scanning books will probably not be undertaken again, so these > > are the > > digitial copies we'll be using for quite some time, and also > > there are a > > number of problems with the ways in which google organizes and > > displays > > book data (which he claims is insufficient compared to library > > standards). > > > > I meant to put together a blog post about the event and about > > the Google > > Settlement in general for the SFC blog, but alas, the woes of > > being a > > full-time student. Let me know if anyone wants a more detailed > > outline > > of the talk, if so maybe I'll throw something short together. > > > > - Matt > > FC @ Berkeley > > > > Kevin Donovan wrote: > > > I think it might be a good idea to reach out to some of the > > most vocal > > > observers (pro- and anti-settlement) and ask them for short > > pieces on > > > why students should care. We can feature these on the blog. > > > > > > Anyone have names? I'd start with Grimmelman and Pam Samuelson. > > > Others? And does anyone have relationships with them to > > reach out to them? > > > > > > On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Elizabeth Stark > > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote: > > > > > > And the post is authored by our friend Derek Slater... > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 7:52 PM, Alex Kozak > > > <[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]> > > <mailto:[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>>> > > > wrote: > > > > > > I don't think we have. I know a lot of people have > > strong > > > feelings about it. Thinking strategically without > > getting into > > > the settlement, I think we should as much as > > possible try to > > > be pragmatic about it and only object or support > > specific > > > ideas or terms rather than support or challenge it > > wholesale. > > > > > > In my personal opinion, it's also particularly > > important that > > > we don't frame the issue in terms of tired worn out > > > commitments and ideologies (specifically, for-profit > vs. > > > non-profit or commercial vs. non-commercial). What > > do you all > > > think though? > > > > > > - Alex > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Gavin Baker > > > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > http://googlepublicpolicy.blogspot.com/2009/09/voices-of-support-for-google-books.html > > > > > > "Yesterday, we took part in another call with > > even more > > > groups, > > > including the ... United States Students > > Association and > > > others, who > > > together voiced their support for the [Google > Books] > > > agreement." > > > > > > Have other student groups (e.g. SFC) weighed in > > on the > > > Google Books > > > settlement? > > > > > > -- > > > Gavin Baker > > > http://www.gavinbaker.com/ > > > [email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>> > > > > > > We must learn to live together as brothers or > perish > > > together as fools. > > > Martin Luther King, Jr. > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Discuss mailing list > > > [email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]> > > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected] > >> > > > > > http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Alex Kozak > > > Education Program Assistant > > > ccLearn, Creative Commons > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Discuss mailing list > > > [email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]> > > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected] > >> > > > > http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Discuss mailing list > > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected] > >> > > > http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Kevin Donovan > > > Georgetown '11: SFS > > > SA Phone: 082.311.8512 > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Discuss mailing list > > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > > http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Discuss mailing list > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Discuss mailing list > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Kevin Donovan > > Georgetown '11: SFS > > SA Phone: 082.311.8512 > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Discuss mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > [email protected] > http://freeculture.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss >
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