Op-ed published in today's YDN by three Yale SFC members (and my students!):
http://www.yaledailynews.com/opinion/guest-columns/2010/02/11/csar-kamdar-and-slade-lux-et-veritas-et-gmail/

On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 1:12 AM, aphid <[email protected]> wrote:

>  Here's a FAQ about how this is being implemented here at UC Santa Cruz as
> an *opt-in* service for students, but not faculty or staff:
> http://its.ucsc.edu/service_catalog/slugmail/faq.php -- it covers some of
> the issues that have come up in this thread... interesting that it's
> advertising-free.
>
> peace &upheaval,
> a
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>
> On 2/10/10 2:12 PM, Alex Kozak wrote:
>
> I'd love to have a conversation about this at the conference... would be
> interesting to hear everyone's perspective. I think this is a great debate
> to have.
>
>  John you know I agree with the ideals of free software, but I think I have
> a more pragmatic view when it comes to Google. Does the increased risk to
> "corporate interference" and  reduced autonomy outweigh the potential
> benefits of these technologies? For a school without any collaboration
> systems, and little capacity to deploy one, the Google option would clearly
> be a net win for education and the university's mission to educate. And it
> would be a win for free culture in that the capabilities for collaboration
> and learning presented by the internet are being harnessed by the
> institutions who could most benefit from their use.
>
>  I definitely agree that other things being equal a floss solution is
> preferable over Google. And think it's even inevitable that free software
> will compete with Google apps-like services. But in the meantime should
> schools not be encouraging the use of new technology until the floss
> solution is as optimal as Google?
>
>  - Alex
>
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 12:20 PM, John Sullivan <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>>  Adi Kamdar <[email protected]> writes:
>>
>> > Hey folks,
>> >
>> > The Yale Daily News ran an article today about how there's
>> almost-definite
>> > talk about Yale switching to Google Apps for Education and using Google
>> > servers/software to host our email.
>> >
>> >
>> http://www.yaledailynews.com/news/university-news/2010/02/09/google-run-yale-e-mail/
>> >
>> > I was wondering if you guys had any thoughts or good literature on the
>> > issues with this (re privacy, data, costs, security, tech, law, etc.).
>> For
>> > the most part, the students are overjoyed about this since our old email
>> > system is painful to use, so it'd be nice to address usability issues as
>> > well.
>>
>>  People in this thread have commented on the Gmail aspect, but if the
>> university is using the rest of the Google Apps, then that opens up the
>> Google Docs issue as well -- where the free software arguments seem much
>> clearer.
>>
>> http://www.google.com/a/help/intl/en/edu/university.html has a map
>> showing other schools that have already made the switch. (BTW, this
>> animated map with testimonials / case studies is really cool and
>> something we should do with free software adoption and free culture
>> program highlights.)
>>
>> I don't see how this solves any RIAA problems -- your university
>> administrators still have access to your email via the Google Apps
>> administrative account. Google only requires that the university publish
>> some kind of policy to their users, not much (or anything) about the
>> content of that policy.
>>
>> It seems like a net loss to me -- regardless of whether Gmail is an
>> ethical problem for free software or not, it's still clearly preferable
>> that a university run its mail system and document
>> production/collaboration using free software (or contract to someone who
>> does). It means more autonomy, less risk of corporate interference in
>> education, more educational opportunities for students, faculty and
>> employees, and supporting the growth of an approach to software that is
>> consistent with advancing any university's founding mission.
>>
>> --
>> -John Sullivan
>> -http://wjsullivan.net
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