Two points of what I consider common etiquette (call me old school if you
want).
First, if I am standing in front of a person having a conversation and the
other person is emailing, texting or answering the phone it is a definite
indicator that I not only don't have they're full attention, but that I am
not terribly important. Obviously these indicators and interpretations place
me at the center of concern.

Second, my behavior should not negatively impact another's if I can at all
avoid it. Personally I would never have a loud phone conversation where it
disrupts others (think check out lines, restaurants and even public spaces
to some extent. While I can only hope for this in return, it definitely
impacts my personal space.

As for lectures, speaking events and even meetings - its pretty common place
to be taking notes, referencing additional material and even blogging. But I
love when someone gets busted for playing solitaire.



On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 10:16 AM, christine chastain <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Being an anthropologist and designer, my observations have taught me
> that there is little difference between physical and virtual social
> behavior from a cognitive behavioral and anthropological perspective.
> People have the same needs they always did - to feel part of a social
> structure and network, to feel validated and loved, to wield power, to
> seek and present identity, etc. I would argue that while technology
> itself provides differences in virtual and physical interaction, the
> structure remains traditional. It is just more visible more quickly
> now.
>
> What I've been thinking about is whether the "etiquettte" arising from
> the use of "virtual" technology in a more traditional setting and
> people's reaction to that might be anti-social punishment. Consider
> this - as long as everyone (particularly in a collectivist setting)
> has access and benefits from the same technology, the use of such
> becomes the accepted norm. An example of this would be texting in
> Finland - because almost everyone has a cell phone and the benefits to
> society as a whole are understood. no one would dream of asking
> another to stop texting someone during a conversation. In fact, the
> person being texted is often drawn into the physical conversation as
> though they were a part of it. So there is no opportunity, really, to
> get something someone else has or to punish someone else for doing
> something that everyone is doing.
>
> In the United States, we use shame to get people not to do things or
> "decide" for themselves to adhere to the normative. If most of the
> room has decided that cell phone conversations or twittering is off
> limits in a particular setting, stronger-minded individuals will
> "police" the group making sure everyone adheres to a certain code of
> conduct.And this works most of the time as those being "policed" don't
> want to stand out and don't want to cause trouble among peers who
> might act as valuable connections.
>
> In a place like Greece, there is no reason to feel shame from someone
> who is a stranger. Because family and close friends are the only
> connections that truly matter, what a stranger says to you can be
> completely disregarded. And because rule of law is perceived as
> unreliable, no one will be following up either. So there will always
> be multiple people speaking loudly on cell phones during a concert,
> etc.
> Interestingly, those who try and "police" this behavior are punished
> by the policed as they are often seen as do-gooders and
> maternal/paternalistic in behavior. Individuals seem not to mind that
> the collective "suffers" as a whole.
>
> These are extreme examples however it makes me think that there are,
> as much as cross-cultural differences, individual differences within
> cultures. Perhaps those unwilling to conform at the lecture to
> "lecture-like" behavior did not see the benefit of doing so for the
> group as a whole and some could have become irritated with being told
> what to do and as such, anti-social punishment may be part of the
> reason they persisted.
>
> On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 4:30 AM, David Malouf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > thus is a tangent from Andrei's thread on Twitter @ SxSWi.
> >
> >  "why us the person in front if you more important than the person a
> >  million miles away?"
> >
> >  the assumption coming from a pre-digital culture is that the people
> >  with you ate more important than those away from you.
> >
> >  I would like to suggest that in the digital cultural world that this
> >  distinction is blurted at beat or just outright arbitrary dependent on
> >  specific contextual queues.
> >
> >  Personally I believe there is a balance we ate going to learn to
> >  strike, but to do that we have to put aside our presumptions and allow
> >  new and different things to happen.
> >
> >  BTW, I am a lot less concerned about the example if people isn't media
> >  while a panel or speaker is going on, then I am about Andrei's example
> >  of people prioritizing their digital connections over those in front
> >  of them during 1-on-1 moments. But even then, I would allow for the
> >  possibility that someone can split their attention between the virtual
> >  & physical. To take a Buxtonism I don't think we have reached "G-d's
> >  Law" in terms of our abilities to attribute meaning and value to our
> >  virtual relationships.
> >
>
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