I haven't tried this yet, but depending upon how you remember things (aka are 
you a visual person) I thought a word find puzzle would be a good way to 
"store" passwords in an open form.  For example have a sheet of paper w/ 


G74jk/
GR#%!y
&#ujwj
41^PH@
n#75HL
/G>210


Then for one password just use the diagonal GRuPH0, for another use the "V" 
GG#175Hwy/.  You could base the sequence on the use if that helps, M for the 
mail server would be /n4&GGRu%k/yj@L0.  Again I haven't tried it yet so I'm not 
sure how practical it would be, but it seems like it might be a viable option 
for storing multiple passwords.

Just a thought...



----- Original Message -----
> From: "Matt Simmons" <[email protected]>
> To: "Tracy Reed" <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected]
> Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2011 10:48:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [lopsa-discuss] Password prefixes [Was: Re: "Stupid SysAdmin 
> tricks for $500, Alex"]
> I wouldn't recommend it for corporate enterprise use, but Bruce
> Schneier has suggested that individuals treat passwords the same way
> they treat every other bit of personally important or valuable
> data...put it in your wallet.
> 
> He suggested that, since it's the best practice to not use the same
> password at multiple sites, that you write down your passwords for
> sites on a piece of paper and store it with your other valuables.
> Then, when you lose your wallet, you go through the exact same
> procedure you do when you cancel the other important bits like credit
> cards.
> 
> --Matt
> 
> 
> On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 7:56 PM, Tracy Reed <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 10:49:27PM -0400, Greg R spake thusly:
> >> On Sat, 14 May 2011 19:44:42 -0400, Tracy Reed
> >> <[email protected]>
> >> > What do you mean by "root password prefix"?
> >>
> >> I ran into something like this before. The password is an acronym
> >> with
> >> substitutions:
> >>
> >> "Fred is no longer working here April 9th" = F1NLw#49
> >
> > Implemented that way, it really doesn't seem so bad and I do similar
> > although I
> > wonder how many then go on to use that same "secure" password on
> > multiple
> > systems.
> >
> > I was thinking it might be something like what one shop I am
> > familiar with
> > does:
> >
> > "Fred Is Fired" = FIF
> >
> > mailserver password = FIF_mail
> >
> > fileserver password = FIF_file
> >
> > database password = FIF_data
> >
> > and so on.
> >
> > The prefix (same on every machine) then an underscore followed by
> > the first
> > four letters of the hostname. For the record, I recognize this as a
> > really bad
> > idea. They are even an e-commerce shop so credit card data is
> > involved. I am
> > working on getting this changed but they have been told "never write
> > down
> > passwords." so there has been resistence. There are password keeper
> > programs
> > which use a master password to encrypt the list of passwords but
> > those work
> > better for personal use: If we have to change or add a server root
> > password I
> > don't want to have to get everyone to update their personal lists. I
> > am leaning
> > towards A GPG encrypted file on an internal server somewhere as is
> > my standard
> > practice although if The Boss, who has no command line skills, wants
> > access to
> > it also for purely territorial reasons as he has no legitimate
> > reason, that may
> > be an issue.
> >
> > I'm sure this is a common problem. What do the rest of you do?
> >
> > --
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