LOPSA is about as far as I am willing to let it go. On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 8:39 AM, Lawrence K. Chen, P.Eng. <[email protected]> wrote: > Yeah...this kind of question might stir up more sides if it were posed to a > list that wasn't LOPSA.... Since, isn't one of the reasons we belong to LOPSA > is that we want this to happen. >
Your problems are not going to be solved by joining an extortion cult (although it does sound like you would make a perfect candidate). Your organization is fucked up - a few union cards will not fix it - it will make it worse. Your IT group obviously has zero support at the C-level. Until they get interested in you, your problems will not change. enjoy! > Being the professional that I've been and try to still be...I would like to > see some kind of structure that says just who can work as a system > administrator. Its scary working in edu, the people that get to play system > administrator...considering that here we work with systems and data more > sensitive than I had to deal with when I was working on the outside (first for > a defense contractor and second for commercial software company). There's > HIPPA data in our DC, but the response is its noisy in the DC and the people > that need to know couldn't hear you. Though we are building an isolated > cluster for PCI-DSS....sort of...there's only two SANs (prod and not, where > 'not' includes the netbackup disk staging pools)....and no data classification > within, yet. FERPA is this annoying thing that we know we're violating, but > nobody cares as long as nobody complains (and the one guy that does...they > keep asking when's he going to retire....they threw away his mainframe, but > being one of the few people with administrative tenure...they couldn't make > him leave with it). There's other compliance issues, but since only PCI-DSS > is the one that's threatening to hurt at the moment, its the one with the most > attention. Even though most of the entities that care, have outsourced (so > its largely a problem for the IT security and compliance group to deal with.) > If you point this out to your organization, you may find yourself sharing an office with mr. mainframe. > The other day...a developer asked, "what's a good crash course in system > administration book?" A few months ago, the director of his unit asked if we > would take him on as an SA intern. He's available immediately and > indefinitely.... is he so highly regarded in his own department that he's > available to us this way? Yes, we have openings...but its so hard to find > good people that'll work for what we'll pay. Though they've complained that > its my fault that I accepted such a low pay when I started, that it hard to > find people like me that'll work for less than what I'm getting. Well, he's > being reassigned to their application system administration group....only > because AA group would sound worse than ASA group.... though for some reason > they get full sudo on their boxes, though the current ones...know they have > it, but don't seem to know how to use it (even after we tell them how they > could do some of the things themselves with it.) Though it worries me that > someday they'll have somebody that doesn't know enough to not try breaking > things.... > You have found a home... > Though I wonder if we'll get to the day where we won't need a license to drive > anymore, because the car will do everything on its own.... I want that. > Have fun at Kansas State, your a lucky man. > On 11/12/2011 1:21 PM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:discuss- >>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Joseph Kern >>> >>> Please note that I am not talking about certification. I am talking about >>> creating a License to Practice. >> If something like this comes about, it doesn't bother me, really. The only >> professions that don't require a license to practice are ones in which >> nothing amazingly valuable is at stake, or it's just so new or so small that >> nobody's been able to create such regulations yet. >> >> You have to be licensed (or certified) to practice law, give financial >> advice, build a house, cut down a tree, practice medicine, drive a taxi. >> >> Obviously, flying > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.lopsa.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss > This list provided by the League of Professional System Administrators > http://lopsa.org/ > _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list [email protected] https://lists.lopsa.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss This list provided by the League of Professional System Administrators http://lopsa.org/
