sorry - that should be: you are a lucky man.

On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 5:16 PM, Ed <[email protected]> wrote:
> LOPSA is about as far as I am willing to let it go.
>
> On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 8:39 AM, Lawrence K. Chen, P.Eng.
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Yeah...this kind of question might stir up more sides if it were posed to a
>> list that wasn't LOPSA....  Since, isn't one of the reasons we belong to 
>> LOPSA
>> is that we want this to happen.
>>
>
> Your problems are not going to be solved by joining an extortion cult
> (although it does sound like you would make a perfect candidate). Your
> organization is fucked up - a few union cards will not fix it - it
> will make it worse.
>
> Your IT group obviously has zero support at the C-level. Until they
> get interested in you, your problems will not change. enjoy!
>
>> Being the professional that I've been and try to still be...I would like to
>> see some kind of structure that says just who can work as a system
>> administrator.  Its scary working in edu, the people that get to play system
>> administrator...considering that here we work with systems and data more
>> sensitive than I had to deal with when I was working on the outside (first 
>> for
>> a defense contractor and second for commercial software company).  There's
>> HIPPA data in our DC, but the response is its noisy in the DC and the people
>> that need to know couldn't hear you.  Though we are building an isolated
>> cluster for PCI-DSS....sort of...there's only two SANs (prod and not, where
>> 'not' includes the netbackup disk staging pools)....and no data 
>> classification
>> within, yet.  FERPA is this annoying thing that we know we're violating, but
>> nobody cares as long as nobody complains (and the one guy that does...they
>> keep asking when's he going to retire....they threw away his mainframe, but
>> being one of the few people with administrative tenure...they couldn't make
>> him leave with it).  There's other compliance issues, but since only PCI-DSS
>> is the one that's threatening to hurt at the moment, its the one with the 
>> most
>> attention.  Even though most of the entities that care, have outsourced (so
>> its largely a problem for the IT security and compliance group to deal with.)
>>
>
> If you point this out to your organization, you may find yourself
> sharing an office with mr. mainframe.
>
>> The other day...a developer asked, "what's a good crash course in system
>> administration book?"  A few months ago, the director of his unit asked if we
>> would take him on as an SA intern.  He's available immediately and
>> indefinitely.... is he so highly regarded in his own department that he's
>> available to us this way?  Yes, we have openings...but its so hard to find
>> good people that'll work for what we'll pay.  Though they've complained that
>> its my fault that I accepted such a low pay when I started, that it hard to
>> find people like me that'll work for less than what I'm getting.  Well, he's
>> being reassigned to their application system administration group....only
>> because AA group would sound worse than ASA group....  though for some reason
>> they get full sudo on their boxes, though the current ones...know they have
>> it, but don't seem to know how to use it (even after we tell them how they
>> could do some of the things themselves with it.)  Though it worries me that
>> someday they'll have somebody that doesn't know enough to not try breaking
>> things....
>>
>
> You have found a home...
>
>> Though I wonder if we'll get to the day where we won't need a license to 
>> drive
>> anymore, because the car will do everything on its own.... I want that.
>>
>
> Have fun at Kansas State, your a lucky man.
>
>> On 11/12/2011 1:21 PM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote:
>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:discuss-
>>>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Joseph Kern
>>>>
>>>> Please note that I am not talking about certification. I am talking about
>>>> creating a License to Practice.
>>> If something like this comes about, it doesn't bother me, really.  The only 
>>> professions that don't require a license to practice are ones in which 
>>> nothing amazingly valuable is at stake, or it's just so new or so small 
>>> that nobody's been able to create such regulations yet.
>>>
>>> You have to be licensed (or certified) to practice law, give financial 
>>> advice, build a house, cut down a tree, practice medicine, drive a taxi.
>>>
>>> Obviously, flying
>>
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