Yeah, I remember #agreeing that, but I think it was because Casey had basically told us It Must Be So. I meant to point out that since everything seems so up-in-the-air, and the community seems to prefer other options, we may want to keep them on the table. In particular I'm concerned about low attendance if we have a Sunday DDF and must to pay for the Monday/Tuesday event. For folks traveling internationally, it's a hard sell. Something like Thursday/Friday DDF + weekend in LA + free Sunday XCI + free Mon/Tues cross-community + costly/optional ONS Thurs/Fri seems much more appealing.
Daniel On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 3:43 PM Brady Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > Dan, > > I was under the impression that we agreed on Sunday in the last TSC call. > The following was posted in the meeting minutes: > > AGREED: ODL DDF will be on Sunday March 25, 2018 (abhijitkumbhare, > 19:04:10) > > > And later summarized as follows by Abhijit in his email about the meeting > minutes: > > The Fluorine DDF will be on March 25, 2018 - which is unfortunately on a > Sunday but that is the best choice in the current circumstances. It will be > at the same venue as the ONS. There will be possibilities to have smaller > breakout sessions on Monday and Tuesday during the LFN developer event. > > > I agree that the ONS event is *ridiculously* expensive, and consequently > I wont be attending it. Im making the trip just to attend the DDF, which I > feel is worth it. I was able to reserve at the event hotel for the nights > of Saturday and Sunday (March 24, 25) for the same rate of $259/night. > > I hope we can also have breakout sessions on Monday without having to pay > to get into the ONS for the day. I hope Phil and Casey will work this out > for us. If ONS insists on being so expensive and charging for ridiculous > things like an ODL breakout session, then they should be worried about > facing the same fate as the SDN world congress, who tried to do the same > thing and nobody attends that anymore. > > > Regards, > > *Brady Johnson* > [email protected] > > <https://twitter.com/inocybetech> <http://www.inocybe.com/> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/2661537?trk=tyah&trkInfo=clickedVertical%3Acompany%2CclickedEntityId%3A2661537%2Cidx%3A1-1-1%2CtarId%3A1441300264767%2Ctas%3Ainocybe> > [image: > Screenshot 2017-02-14 at 10.43.55 AM.png] > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9uUWABdPR0Je9Du_15FCkw> > > > > On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 7:35 AM, Daniel Farrell <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Bumping this thread to summarize where we're at and what we need to know. >> >> Mentally running a raked-preference algorithm on the votes we saw, it >> looks like the community prefers 3 (Thurs/Fri), then 1 (Mon/Tues), then a >> distant 2 (Sunday). However, Casey's follow-up makes it seem like we don't >> have much of an option, must do 2/Sunday. >> >> Regarding costs, there seems to be ongoing confusion. Casey mentioned >> above and on the TSC that the Monday/Tuesday cross-community event would be >> free for DDF participants, but told a few of us on yesterday's TWS that >> he's now hearing it will not be free. I've also heard quite a bit of >> off-list concern that the DDF is at risk of not being well-attended since >> it's a single weekend day and ONS is so expensive ($1195 early bird). A >> number of us also sent talks to ONS that now seem like they should be part >> of the cross-community event (track details sent after CFP closed), so >> we're not sure if we will get speaker passes. >> >> We've also asked for the hotel discount to start on Saturday since the >> DDF will be Sunday but haven't heard back. >> >> We really need to get some clarity here ASAP as folks are trying to >> figure out budgets and flights will start going up in price soon. >> >> Thanks, >> Daniel >> >> On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 7:11 AM Anil Belur <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 1:05 AM, Daniel Farrell <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Bumping this thread because we really need to get to a resolution ASAP, >>>> folks need to book travel. >>>> >>>> The options I've seen: >>>> >>>> 1. DDF on Thursday/Friday before ONS. Very long trip, but no conflicts. >>>> 2. DDF on Sunday before ONS. Conflicts with XCI event, working on the >>>> weekend sucks. >>>> 3. DDF during Mon/Tue of ONS. Conflicts with cross-community >>>> collaboration event. Unclear if cross-community event has two full days of >>>> relevant content. Maybe possible to time-slice in a way that minimizes >>>> conflict (DDF in the morning, cross-community events involving ODL in the >>>> afternoon). >>>> 4. Have a virtual DDF. Likely not as productive, little support voiced >>>> so far. >>>> >>>> I prefer 1 or 3, since the XCI event is critical for me. >>>> >>>> >>> +1 for 1 or 3 >>> >> >
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