Sorry, I've twice said Thursday/Friday for the main ONS event when it's
actually Wednesday/Thursday. Friday is a holiday.

On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 4:00 PM Daniel Farrell <[email protected]> wrote:

> Yeah, I remember #agreeing that, but I think it was because Casey had
> basically told us It Must Be So. I meant to point out that since everything
> seems so up-in-the-air, and the community seems to prefer other options, we
> may want to keep them on the table. In particular I'm concerned about low
> attendance if we have a Sunday DDF and must to pay for the Monday/Tuesday
> event. For folks traveling internationally, it's a hard sell. Something
> like Thursday/Friday DDF + weekend in LA + free Sunday XCI + free Mon/Tues
> cross-community + costly/optional ONS Thurs/Fri seems much more appealing.
>
> Daniel
>
> On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 3:43 PM Brady Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Dan,
>>
>> I was under the impression that we agreed on Sunday in the last TSC call.
>> The following was posted in the meeting minutes:
>>
>> AGREED: ODL DDF will be on Sunday March 25, 2018 (abhijitkumbhare,
>> 19:04:10)
>>
>>
>> And later summarized as follows by Abhijit in his email about the meeting
>> minutes:
>>
>> The Fluorine DDF will be on March 25, 2018 - which is unfortunately on a
>> Sunday but that is the best choice in the current circumstances. It will be
>> at the same venue as the ONS. There will be possibilities to have smaller
>> breakout sessions on Monday and Tuesday during the LFN developer event.
>>
>>
>> I agree that the ONS event is *ridiculously* expensive, and consequently
>> I wont be attending it. Im making the trip just to attend the DDF, which I
>> feel is worth it. I was able to reserve at the event hotel for the nights
>> of Saturday and Sunday (March 24, 25) for the same rate of $259/night.
>>
>> I hope we can also have breakout sessions on Monday without having to pay
>> to get into the ONS for the day. I hope Phil and Casey will work this out
>> for us. If ONS insists on being so expensive and charging for ridiculous
>> things like an ODL breakout session, then they should be worried about
>> facing the same fate as the SDN world congress, who tried to do the same
>> thing and nobody attends that anymore.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> *Brady Johnson*
>> [email protected]
>>
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>>
>> On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 7:35 AM, Daniel Farrell <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Bumping this thread to summarize where we're at and what we need to know.
>>>
>>> Mentally running a raked-preference algorithm on the votes we saw, it
>>> looks like the community prefers 3 (Thurs/Fri), then 1 (Mon/Tues), then a
>>> distant 2 (Sunday). However, Casey's follow-up makes it seem like we don't
>>> have much of an option, must do 2/Sunday.
>>>
>>> Regarding costs, there seems to be ongoing confusion. Casey mentioned
>>> above and on the TSC that the Monday/Tuesday cross-community event would be
>>> free for DDF participants, but told a few of us on yesterday's TWS that
>>> he's now hearing it will not be free. I've also heard quite a bit of
>>> off-list concern that the DDF is at risk of not being well-attended since
>>> it's a single weekend day and ONS is so expensive ($1195 early bird). A
>>> number of us also sent talks to ONS that now seem like they should be part
>>> of the cross-community event (track details sent after CFP closed), so
>>> we're not sure if we will get speaker passes.
>>>
>>> We've also asked for the hotel discount to start on Saturday since the
>>> DDF will be Sunday but haven't heard back.
>>>
>>> We really need to get some clarity here ASAP as folks are trying to
>>> figure out budgets and flights will start going up in price soon.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Daniel
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 7:11 AM Anil Belur <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 1:05 AM, Daniel Farrell <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Bumping this thread because we really need to get to a resolution
>>>>> ASAP, folks need to book travel.
>>>>>
>>>>> The options I've seen:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. DDF on Thursday/Friday before ONS. Very long trip, but no conflicts.
>>>>> 2. DDF on Sunday before ONS. Conflicts with XCI event, working on the
>>>>> weekend sucks.
>>>>> 3. DDF during Mon/Tue of ONS. Conflicts with cross-community
>>>>> collaboration event. Unclear if cross-community event has two full days of
>>>>> relevant content. Maybe possible to time-slice in a way that minimizes
>>>>> conflict (DDF in the morning, cross-community events involving ODL in the
>>>>> afternoon).
>>>>> 4. Have a virtual DDF. Likely not as productive, little support voiced
>>>>> so far.
>>>>>
>>>>> I prefer 1 or 3, since the XCI event is critical for me.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> +1 for 1 or 3
>>>>
>>>
>>
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