I was going to suggest we contact them to ensure the listed kit is in fact
a complete printer. In addition to the Cartesian robot hardware we should
verify that it includes electronics, motors, extruder, hot end, and heated
bed. Also could you inquire about combined shipping for multiple order as I
am seriously considering purchasing the hardware only kit for my self would
be interested in splitting shipping with Skullspace.

Wait, where did $1650 come from. I see the listed price at $1395. Even with
taxes and shipping I can't get that number. Keep in mind that choosing
colored aluminum pieces costs more.

>We should probably also get at least one spool of plastic so we can jump
start the pay-per-print thing. If they fit, >maybe we can get some of
Ward's at $50

Based on the advertised print speeds I would imagine this printer uses 1.75
mm filament although that could always be changed with a new extruder/hot
end kit.

Does anyone know what the print speed of the Thing-o-matic is? I think the
build envelope is only 120mmx120mmx120mm. That is quite small, if correct.




On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Benjamin Bergman <[email protected]>wrote:

> I'm waiting on a response from their support team to confirm that all
> required parts are included, but it looks like we can have it for $1650 +
> whatever duty there is at the border.
>
> We should probably also get at least one spool of plastic so we can jump
> start the pay-per-print thing. If they fit, maybe we can get some of Ward's
> at $50, otherwise we need to get one shipped for maybe $75-100.
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Benjamin Bergman <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Editing the wiki now. Will look up shipping shortly.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:23 AM, Ron <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Sounds good to me!
>>>
>>> If you could figure out the final cost, that'd be great. We're at $1250
>>> right now, I can post to announce@ again when we have the final option.
>>>
>>> Also, would you mind posting the two choices to the wiki page?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Ron
>>>
>>> On 2013-01-31 09:14, Benjamin Bergman wrote:
>>> > Mendel Max 2.0 sounds great! They have a free parts upgrade for the
>>> beta,
>>> > so any parts that change in the final release could be ours for just
>>> the
>>> > price of shipping.
>>> >
>>> > So, now we just need to figure out the shipping cost and then we can
>>> > propose that as the #1 choice. I think Ward's Thing-o-Matic is still a
>>> > decent second choice in case we can't raise enough as it is shipping
>>> free,
>>> > works, and has free setup + instruction from him.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 1:38 AM, Stefan H.A <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > I've been looking at the availability of printers and I'd like to add
>>> > > another for consideration.
>>> > >
>>> > > First off, the Mendel Max Pro doesn't seem to be available anymore.
>>> The
>>> > > website linked to in the Make review now sells what seems to be a
>>> more
>>> > > expensive version of the printer I'm about to talk about.
>>> > > http://trinitylabs.com/products/aluminatus-trinityone-3d-printer
>>> > >
>>> > > The Mendel Max 2.0 is my primary recommendation, if we can get one.
>>> Here's
>>> > > why.
>>> > > http://www.mendelmax.com/
>>> > >
>>> > > Pros:
>>> > > - Print Area Dimensions: 245 mm x 315 mm x 225 mm (9.6"x12.4"x8.9")
>>> > > - Usable Maximum Print Speed: 250mm/sec or more depending on the
>>> part,
>>> > > print material, and extruder
>>> > > - Frame: All aluminum
>>> > > http://www.mendelmax.com/?wiki=mendelmax-versions
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > Cons:
>>> > > - Currently in beta
>>> > > - Won't ship until February 25
>>> > >
>>> > > Availability:
>>> > > -$1395.00 as a kit
>>> > >
>>> http://store.makerstoolworks.com/printer-kits/mendelmax-2-0-beta-kit/
>>> > >
>>> > > It prints 100mm/sec faster and has a larger print envelope than both
>>> the
>>> > > Ultimaker and the Mendel Max 1.5. It is also closely related to the
>>> open
>>> > > source Reprap project and community.
>>> > >
>>> > > Ultimaker.
>>> > > http://ultimaker.com/
>>> > >
>>> > > Specs:
>>> > > - Print Area Dimensions: 211mm x 211mm x 211mm (8.3″×8.3″×8.3″)
>>> > > - Print Speed: 150mm/sec
>>> > >
>>> > > Availability:
>>> > > - $2310.00 fully assembled, however I suspect it might be
>>> prohibitively
>>> > > expensive to ship from Europe.
>>> > > https://shop.ultimaker.com/en/assembled-ultimakers/assembled-um.html
>>> > >
>>> > > - $1625.00 as a kit
>>> > > https://shop.ultimaker.com/en/ultimaker-kits/ultimaker-kit-new.html
>>> > >
>>> > > Mendel Max 1.5.
>>> > > http://reprap.org/wiki/MendelMax
>>> > >
>>> > > Specs:
>>> > > - Print Area Dimensions: ~215-230 mm x ~215-250 mm x ~140-175 mm
>>> > > (9"x10"x7")
>>> > > - Print Speed: 150mm/sec
>>> > >
>>> > > Availability:
>>> > > - $1906.00 fully assembled, shipping $498.82
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> http://www.ebay.ca/itm/New-Fully-Assembled-and-Tuned-IC3D-RepRap-3D-Printer-MendelMax-/111002420941?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19d84286cd
>>> > >
>>> > > - $900.00 - $1200.00 as a kit, shipping $120.00 - $160.00
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Mendelmax-Ultimate-3d-printer-kit-Ramps-LCD-Printed-Parts-Complete-Color-Choice-/281055575886?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item417037bf4e
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> http://www.ebay.ca/itm/RepRap-MendelMax-1-5-Unassembled-Complete-Kit-/230910586303?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35c357edbf
>>> > >
>>> > > Making a secondary recommendation between these two printers is
>>> difficult
>>> > > because I don't know very much about the Ultimaker style of printer.
>>> I was
>>> > > prepared to recommend the Ultimaker over the Mendel Max 1.5 until I
>>> > > converted the build dimensions into the same units and realized the
>>> Mendel
>>> > > Max 1.5 has about the same or more print area (depending on where
>>> you look
>>> > > it up), although less height. As far as print resolution (z-axis
>>> > > resolution) is concerned, because these printers use threaded rod to
>>> drive
>>> > > the z-axis they are all mechanically capable of printing down to
>>> very low
>>> > > layer heights like .04mm. The ability to do so will depend on what
>>> kind of
>>> > > extruder nozzle is fitted to the printer and how you configure the
>>> slicing
>>> > > software. Given all of this I think my secondary recommendation is
>>> still
>>> > > the Mendal Max 1.5. Also, be aware there are Mendel Max 1.5+ upgrade
>>> kits
>>> > > available which, from what I can tell turn it into a Mendel Max pro.
>>> > >
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