I'm waiting on a response from their support team to confirm that all
required parts are included, but it looks like we can have it for $1650 +
whatever duty there is at the border.

We should probably also get at least one spool of plastic so we can jump
start the pay-per-print thing. If they fit, maybe we can get some of Ward's
at $50, otherwise we need to get one shipped for maybe $75-100.


On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Benjamin Bergman <[email protected]> wrote:

> Editing the wiki now. Will look up shipping shortly.
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:23 AM, Ron <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Sounds good to me!
>>
>> If you could figure out the final cost, that'd be great. We're at $1250
>> right now, I can post to announce@ again when we have the final option.
>>
>> Also, would you mind posting the two choices to the wiki page?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Ron
>>
>> On 2013-01-31 09:14, Benjamin Bergman wrote:
>> > Mendel Max 2.0 sounds great! They have a free parts upgrade for the
>> beta,
>> > so any parts that change in the final release could be ours for just the
>> > price of shipping.
>> >
>> > So, now we just need to figure out the shipping cost and then we can
>> > propose that as the #1 choice. I think Ward's Thing-o-Matic is still a
>> > decent second choice in case we can't raise enough as it is shipping
>> free,
>> > works, and has free setup + instruction from him.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 1:38 AM, Stefan H.A <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > I've been looking at the availability of printers and I'd like to add
>> > > another for consideration.
>> > >
>> > > First off, the Mendel Max Pro doesn't seem to be available anymore.
>> The
>> > > website linked to in the Make review now sells what seems to be a more
>> > > expensive version of the printer I'm about to talk about.
>> > > http://trinitylabs.com/products/aluminatus-trinityone-3d-printer
>> > >
>> > > The Mendel Max 2.0 is my primary recommendation, if we can get one.
>> Here's
>> > > why.
>> > > http://www.mendelmax.com/
>> > >
>> > > Pros:
>> > > - Print Area Dimensions: 245 mm x 315 mm x 225 mm (9.6"x12.4"x8.9")
>> > > - Usable Maximum Print Speed: 250mm/sec or more depending on the part,
>> > > print material, and extruder
>> > > - Frame: All aluminum
>> > > http://www.mendelmax.com/?wiki=mendelmax-versions
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Cons:
>> > > - Currently in beta
>> > > - Won't ship until February 25
>> > >
>> > > Availability:
>> > > -$1395.00 as a kit
>> > > http://store.makerstoolworks.com/printer-kits/mendelmax-2-0-beta-kit/
>> > >
>> > > It prints 100mm/sec faster and has a larger print envelope than both
>> the
>> > > Ultimaker and the Mendel Max 1.5. It is also closely related to the
>> open
>> > > source Reprap project and community.
>> > >
>> > > Ultimaker.
>> > > http://ultimaker.com/
>> > >
>> > > Specs:
>> > > - Print Area Dimensions: 211mm x 211mm x 211mm (8.3″×8.3″×8.3″)
>> > > - Print Speed: 150mm/sec
>> > >
>> > > Availability:
>> > > - $2310.00 fully assembled, however I suspect it might be
>> prohibitively
>> > > expensive to ship from Europe.
>> > > https://shop.ultimaker.com/en/assembled-ultimakers/assembled-um.html
>> > >
>> > > - $1625.00 as a kit
>> > > https://shop.ultimaker.com/en/ultimaker-kits/ultimaker-kit-new.html
>> > >
>> > > Mendel Max 1.5.
>> > > http://reprap.org/wiki/MendelMax
>> > >
>> > > Specs:
>> > > - Print Area Dimensions: ~215-230 mm x ~215-250 mm x ~140-175 mm
>> > > (9"x10"x7")
>> > > - Print Speed: 150mm/sec
>> > >
>> > > Availability:
>> > > - $1906.00 fully assembled, shipping $498.82
>> > >
>> > >
>> http://www.ebay.ca/itm/New-Fully-Assembled-and-Tuned-IC3D-RepRap-3D-Printer-MendelMax-/111002420941?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19d84286cd
>> > >
>> > > - $900.00 - $1200.00 as a kit, shipping $120.00 - $160.00
>> > >
>> > >
>> http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Mendelmax-Ultimate-3d-printer-kit-Ramps-LCD-Printed-Parts-Complete-Color-Choice-/281055575886?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item417037bf4e
>> > >
>> > >
>> http://www.ebay.ca/itm/RepRap-MendelMax-1-5-Unassembled-Complete-Kit-/230910586303?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35c357edbf
>> > >
>> > > Making a secondary recommendation between these two printers is
>> difficult
>> > > because I don't know very much about the Ultimaker style of printer.
>> I was
>> > > prepared to recommend the Ultimaker over the Mendel Max 1.5 until I
>> > > converted the build dimensions into the same units and realized the
>> Mendel
>> > > Max 1.5 has about the same or more print area (depending on where you
>> look
>> > > it up), although less height. As far as print resolution (z-axis
>> > > resolution) is concerned, because these printers use threaded rod to
>> drive
>> > > the z-axis they are all mechanically capable of printing down to very
>> low
>> > > layer heights like .04mm. The ability to do so will depend on what
>> kind of
>> > > extruder nozzle is fitted to the printer and how you configure the
>> slicing
>> > > software. Given all of this I think my secondary recommendation is
>> still
>> > > the Mendal Max 1.5. Also, be aware there are Mendel Max 1.5+ upgrade
>> kits
>> > > available which, from what I can tell turn it into a Mendel Max pro.
>> > >
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