Yeah, I noticed the priced jump upon selecting Canada too. Is this just
additional handling charges related to filling out customs paper work?


On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 10:47 AM, Benjamin Bergman <[email protected]>wrote:

> Woops, it looks like I might have had changed colours in my cart. That
> should have been $1600.
>
> $1600 comes from $55 shipping, $55 for heated bed upgrade + glass (kit is
> unclear if this is included) + $1490 for the printer kit (price jumps $95
> from the $1395 when you say it is for Canada/Mexico).
>
> I'll add your additional questions to my enquiry.
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Stefan H.A <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> I was going to suggest we contact them to ensure the listed kit is in
>> fact a complete printer. In addition to the Cartesian robot hardware we
>> should verify that it includes electronics, motors, extruder, hot end, and
>> heated bed. Also could you inquire about combined shipping for multiple
>> order as I am seriously considering purchasing the hardware only kit for my
>> self would be interested in splitting shipping with Skullspace.
>>
>> Wait, where did $1650 come from. I see the listed price at $1395. Even
>> with taxes and shipping I can't get that number. Keep in mind that choosing
>> colored aluminum pieces costs more.
>>
>> >We should probably also get at least one spool of plastic so we can jump
>> start the pay-per-print thing. If they fit, >maybe we can get some of
>> Ward's at $50
>>
>> Based on the advertised print speeds I would imagine this printer uses
>> 1.75 mm filament although that could always be changed with a new
>> extruder/hot end kit.
>>
>> Does anyone know what the print speed of the Thing-o-matic is? I think
>> the build envelope is only 120mmx120mmx120mm. That is quite small, if
>> correct.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Benjamin Bergman <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> I'm waiting on a response from their support team to confirm that all
>>> required parts are included, but it looks like we can have it for $1650 +
>>> whatever duty there is at the border.
>>>
>>> We should probably also get at least one spool of plastic so we can jump
>>> start the pay-per-print thing. If they fit, maybe we can get some of Ward's
>>> at $50, otherwise we need to get one shipped for maybe $75-100.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Benjamin Bergman <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Editing the wiki now. Will look up shipping shortly.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:23 AM, Ron <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sounds good to me!
>>>>>
>>>>> If you could figure out the final cost, that'd be great. We're at $1250
>>>>> right now, I can post to announce@ again when we have the final
>>>>> option.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, would you mind posting the two choices to the wiki page?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> Ron
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2013-01-31 09:14, Benjamin Bergman wrote:
>>>>> > Mendel Max 2.0 sounds great! They have a free parts upgrade for the
>>>>> beta,
>>>>> > so any parts that change in the final release could be ours for just
>>>>> the
>>>>> > price of shipping.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > So, now we just need to figure out the shipping cost and then we can
>>>>> > propose that as the #1 choice. I think Ward's Thing-o-Matic is still
>>>>> a
>>>>> > decent second choice in case we can't raise enough as it is shipping
>>>>> free,
>>>>> > works, and has free setup + instruction from him.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 1:38 AM, Stefan H.A <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > I've been looking at the availability of printers and I'd like to
>>>>> add
>>>>> > > another for consideration.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > First off, the Mendel Max Pro doesn't seem to be available
>>>>> anymore. The
>>>>> > > website linked to in the Make review now sells what seems to be a
>>>>> more
>>>>> > > expensive version of the printer I'm about to talk about.
>>>>> > > http://trinitylabs.com/products/aluminatus-trinityone-3d-printer
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > The Mendel Max 2.0 is my primary recommendation, if we can get
>>>>> one. Here's
>>>>> > > why.
>>>>> > > http://www.mendelmax.com/
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Pros:
>>>>> > > - Print Area Dimensions: 245 mm x 315 mm x 225 mm (9.6"x12.4"x8.9")
>>>>> > > - Usable Maximum Print Speed: 250mm/sec or more depending on the
>>>>> part,
>>>>> > > print material, and extruder
>>>>> > > - Frame: All aluminum
>>>>> > > http://www.mendelmax.com/?wiki=mendelmax-versions
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Cons:
>>>>> > > - Currently in beta
>>>>> > > - Won't ship until February 25
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Availability:
>>>>> > > -$1395.00 as a kit
>>>>> > >
>>>>> http://store.makerstoolworks.com/printer-kits/mendelmax-2-0-beta-kit/
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > It prints 100mm/sec faster and has a larger print envelope than
>>>>> both the
>>>>> > > Ultimaker and the Mendel Max 1.5. It is also closely related to
>>>>> the open
>>>>> > > source Reprap project and community.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Ultimaker.
>>>>> > > http://ultimaker.com/
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Specs:
>>>>> > > - Print Area Dimensions: 211mm x 211mm x 211mm (8.3″×8.3″×8.3″)
>>>>> > > - Print Speed: 150mm/sec
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Availability:
>>>>> > > - $2310.00 fully assembled, however I suspect it might be
>>>>> prohibitively
>>>>> > > expensive to ship from Europe.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> https://shop.ultimaker.com/en/assembled-ultimakers/assembled-um.html
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > - $1625.00 as a kit
>>>>> > >
>>>>> https://shop.ultimaker.com/en/ultimaker-kits/ultimaker-kit-new.html
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Mendel Max 1.5.
>>>>> > > http://reprap.org/wiki/MendelMax
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Specs:
>>>>> > > - Print Area Dimensions: ~215-230 mm x ~215-250 mm x ~140-175 mm
>>>>> > > (9"x10"x7")
>>>>> > > - Print Speed: 150mm/sec
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Availability:
>>>>> > > - $1906.00 fully assembled, shipping $498.82
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >
>>>>> http://www.ebay.ca/itm/New-Fully-Assembled-and-Tuned-IC3D-RepRap-3D-Printer-MendelMax-/111002420941?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19d84286cd
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > - $900.00 - $1200.00 as a kit, shipping $120.00 - $160.00
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >
>>>>> http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Mendelmax-Ultimate-3d-printer-kit-Ramps-LCD-Printed-Parts-Complete-Color-Choice-/281055575886?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item417037bf4e
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >
>>>>> http://www.ebay.ca/itm/RepRap-MendelMax-1-5-Unassembled-Complete-Kit-/230910586303?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35c357edbf
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Making a secondary recommendation between these two printers is
>>>>> difficult
>>>>> > > because I don't know very much about the Ultimaker style of
>>>>> printer. I was
>>>>> > > prepared to recommend the Ultimaker over the Mendel Max 1.5 until I
>>>>> > > converted the build dimensions into the same units and realized
>>>>> the Mendel
>>>>> > > Max 1.5 has about the same or more print area (depending on where
>>>>> you look
>>>>> > > it up), although less height. As far as print resolution (z-axis
>>>>> > > resolution) is concerned, because these printers use threaded rod
>>>>> to drive
>>>>> > > the z-axis they are all mechanically capable of printing down to
>>>>> very low
>>>>> > > layer heights like .04mm. The ability to do so will depend on what
>>>>> kind of
>>>>> > > extruder nozzle is fitted to the printer and how you configure the
>>>>> slicing
>>>>> > > software. Given all of this I think my secondary recommendation is
>>>>> still
>>>>> > > the Mendal Max 1.5. Also, be aware there are Mendel Max 1.5+
>>>>> upgrade kits
>>>>> > > available which, from what I can tell turn it into a Mendel Max
>>>>> pro.
>>>>> > >
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