That would save us $65 in shipping, and it looks like those folks charge $5 for their services, which means we could afford another roll of filament :)
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Rylaan Gimby <[email protected]> wrote: > I'm down to do a border pickup if it means some free shipping. Just send > it to one of these places http://www.pembinaparcel.com/ > > > On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Benjamin Bergman <[email protected]>wrote: > >> The price jumps a bit when selecting USA too. If this is all that is in >> the cart, shipping is listed as free, so I think it is shipping plus >> whatever special handling charges there are. >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Stefan H.A <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Yeah, I noticed the priced jump upon selecting Canada too. Is this just >>> additional handling charges related to filling out customs paper work? >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 10:47 AM, Benjamin Bergman >>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> Woops, it looks like I might have had changed colours in my cart. That >>>> should have been $1600. >>>> >>>> $1600 comes from $55 shipping, $55 for heated bed upgrade + glass (kit >>>> is unclear if this is included) + $1490 for the printer kit (price jumps >>>> $95 from the $1395 when you say it is for Canada/Mexico). >>>> >>>> I'll add your additional questions to my enquiry. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Stefan H.A <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> I was going to suggest we contact them to ensure the listed kit is in >>>>> fact a complete printer. In addition to the Cartesian robot hardware we >>>>> should verify that it includes electronics, motors, extruder, hot end, and >>>>> heated bed. Also could you inquire about combined shipping for multiple >>>>> order as I am seriously considering purchasing the hardware only kit for >>>>> my >>>>> self would be interested in splitting shipping with Skullspace. >>>>> >>>>> Wait, where did $1650 come from. I see the listed price at $1395. Even >>>>> with taxes and shipping I can't get that number. Keep in mind that >>>>> choosing >>>>> colored aluminum pieces costs more. >>>>> >>>>> >We should probably also get at least one spool of plastic so we can >>>>> jump start the pay-per-print thing. If they fit, >maybe we can get some of >>>>> Ward's at $50 >>>>> >>>>> Based on the advertised print speeds I would imagine this printer uses >>>>> 1.75 mm filament although that could always be changed with a new >>>>> extruder/hot end kit. >>>>> >>>>> Does anyone know what the print speed of the Thing-o-matic is? I think >>>>> the build envelope is only 120mmx120mmx120mm. That is quite small, if >>>>> correct. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Benjamin Bergman >>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I'm waiting on a response from their support team to confirm that all >>>>>> required parts are included, but it looks like we can have it for $1650 + >>>>>> whatever duty there is at the border. >>>>>> >>>>>> We should probably also get at least one spool of plastic so we can >>>>>> jump start the pay-per-print thing. If they fit, maybe we can get some of >>>>>> Ward's at $50, otherwise we need to get one shipped for maybe $75-100. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Benjamin Bergman >>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Editing the wiki now. Will look up shipping shortly. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:23 AM, Ron <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sounds good to me! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If you could figure out the final cost, that'd be great. We're at >>>>>>>> $1250 >>>>>>>> right now, I can post to announce@ again when we have the final >>>>>>>> option. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Also, would you mind posting the two choices to the wiki page? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ron >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 2013-01-31 09:14, Benjamin Bergman wrote: >>>>>>>> > Mendel Max 2.0 sounds great! They have a free parts upgrade for >>>>>>>> the beta, >>>>>>>> > so any parts that change in the final release could be ours for >>>>>>>> just the >>>>>>>> > price of shipping. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > So, now we just need to figure out the shipping cost and then we >>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>> > propose that as the #1 choice. I think Ward's Thing-o-Matic is >>>>>>>> still a >>>>>>>> > decent second choice in case we can't raise enough as it is >>>>>>>> shipping free, >>>>>>>> > works, and has free setup + instruction from him. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 1:38 AM, Stefan H.A <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > I've been looking at the availability of printers and I'd like >>>>>>>> to add >>>>>>>> > > another for consideration. >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > First off, the Mendel Max Pro doesn't seem to be available >>>>>>>> anymore. The >>>>>>>> > > website linked to in the Make review now sells what seems to be >>>>>>>> a more >>>>>>>> > > expensive version of the printer I'm about to talk about. >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> http://trinitylabs.com/products/aluminatus-trinityone-3d-printer >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > The Mendel Max 2.0 is my primary recommendation, if we can get >>>>>>>> one. Here's >>>>>>>> > > why. >>>>>>>> > > http://www.mendelmax.com/ >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > Pros: >>>>>>>> > > - Print Area Dimensions: 245 mm x 315 mm x 225 mm >>>>>>>> (9.6"x12.4"x8.9") >>>>>>>> > > - Usable Maximum Print Speed: 250mm/sec or more depending on >>>>>>>> the part, >>>>>>>> > > print material, and extruder >>>>>>>> > > - Frame: All aluminum >>>>>>>> > > http://www.mendelmax.com/?wiki=mendelmax-versions >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > Cons: >>>>>>>> > > - Currently in beta >>>>>>>> > > - Won't ship until February 25 >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > Availability: >>>>>>>> > > -$1395.00 as a kit >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> http://store.makerstoolworks.com/printer-kits/mendelmax-2-0-beta-kit/ >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > It prints 100mm/sec faster and has a larger print envelope than >>>>>>>> both the >>>>>>>> > > Ultimaker and the Mendel Max 1.5. It is also closely related to >>>>>>>> the open >>>>>>>> > > source Reprap project and community. >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > Ultimaker. >>>>>>>> > > http://ultimaker.com/ >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > Specs: >>>>>>>> > > - Print Area Dimensions: 211mm x 211mm x 211mm (8.3″×8.3″×8.3″) >>>>>>>> > > - Print Speed: 150mm/sec >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > Availability: >>>>>>>> > > - $2310.00 fully assembled, however I suspect it might be >>>>>>>> prohibitively >>>>>>>> > > expensive to ship from Europe. >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> https://shop.ultimaker.com/en/assembled-ultimakers/assembled-um.html >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > - $1625.00 as a kit >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> https://shop.ultimaker.com/en/ultimaker-kits/ultimaker-kit-new.html >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > Mendel Max 1.5. >>>>>>>> > > http://reprap.org/wiki/MendelMax >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > Specs: >>>>>>>> > > - Print Area Dimensions: ~215-230 mm x ~215-250 mm x ~140-175 mm >>>>>>>> > > (9"x10"x7") >>>>>>>> > > - Print Speed: 150mm/sec >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > Availability: >>>>>>>> > > - $1906.00 fully assembled, shipping $498.82 >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> http://www.ebay.ca/itm/New-Fully-Assembled-and-Tuned-IC3D-RepRap-3D-Printer-MendelMax-/111002420941?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19d84286cd >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > - $900.00 - $1200.00 as a kit, shipping $120.00 - $160.00 >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Mendelmax-Ultimate-3d-printer-kit-Ramps-LCD-Printed-Parts-Complete-Color-Choice-/281055575886?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item417037bf4e >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> http://www.ebay.ca/itm/RepRap-MendelMax-1-5-Unassembled-Complete-Kit-/230910586303?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35c357edbf >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > Making a secondary recommendation between these two printers is >>>>>>>> difficult >>>>>>>> > > because I don't know very much about the Ultimaker style of >>>>>>>> printer. I was >>>>>>>> > > prepared to recommend the Ultimaker over the Mendel Max 1.5 >>>>>>>> until I >>>>>>>> > > converted the build dimensions into the same units and realized >>>>>>>> the Mendel >>>>>>>> > > Max 1.5 has about the same or more print area (depending on >>>>>>>> where you look >>>>>>>> > > it up), although less height. As far as print resolution (z-axis >>>>>>>> > > resolution) is concerned, because these printers use threaded >>>>>>>> rod to drive >>>>>>>> > > the z-axis they are all mechanically capable of printing down >>>>>>>> to very low >>>>>>>> > > layer heights like .04mm. The ability to do so will depend on >>>>>>>> what kind of >>>>>>>> > > extruder nozzle is fitted to the printer and how you configure >>>>>>>> the slicing >>>>>>>> > > software. Given all of this I think my secondary recommendation >>>>>>>> is still >>>>>>>> > > the Mendal Max 1.5. 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