In case we are unable to reach the $1600 target for a Mendel Max 2.0, I'd just like to say there are options available more inline with the amount of money already pledged.
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/RepRap-MendelMax-1-5-Unassembled-Complete-Kit-/230910586303?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35c357edbf On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 6:34 PM, Benjamin Bergman <[email protected]> wrote: > Ward posted the pics of his Thing-O-Matic: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/wardelder/sets/72157632676676019/ > > I think our best bet right now is to aim for the Mendel Max 2.0 at $1500. > Ideally, we will try to hit $1600+ to cover duty and a couple starter rolls > from Ward. If we want all his plastic, that would be about $400, but a > single roll would be between $25-60 (you can see his selection and asking > prices again here: > http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/3d_printer#Option_2:_Used_.28local_and_working.29_Thing-O-Matic > ). > > > On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Benjamin Bergman <[email protected]>wrote: > >> That would save us $65 in shipping, and it looks like those folks charge >> $5 for their services, which means we could afford another roll of filament >> :) >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Rylaan Gimby <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I'm down to do a border pickup if it means some free shipping. Just send >>> it to one of these places http://www.pembinaparcel.com/ >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Benjamin Bergman >>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> The price jumps a bit when selecting USA too. If this is all that is in >>>> the cart, shipping is listed as free, so I think it is shipping plus >>>> whatever special handling charges there are. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Stefan H.A <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yeah, I noticed the priced jump upon selecting Canada too. Is this >>>>> just additional handling charges related to filling out customs paper >>>>> work? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 10:47 AM, Benjamin Bergman >>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Woops, it looks like I might have had changed colours in my cart. >>>>>> That should have been $1600. >>>>>> >>>>>> $1600 comes from $55 shipping, $55 for heated bed upgrade + glass >>>>>> (kit is unclear if this is included) + $1490 for the printer kit (price >>>>>> jumps $95 from the $1395 when you say it is for Canada/Mexico). >>>>>> >>>>>> I'll add your additional questions to my enquiry. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Stefan H.A <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I was going to suggest we contact them to ensure the listed kit is >>>>>>> in fact a complete printer. In addition to the Cartesian robot hardware >>>>>>> we >>>>>>> should verify that it includes electronics, motors, extruder, hot end, >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> heated bed. Also could you inquire about combined shipping for multiple >>>>>>> order as I am seriously considering purchasing the hardware only kit >>>>>>> for my >>>>>>> self would be interested in splitting shipping with Skullspace. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Wait, where did $1650 come from. I see the listed price at $1395. >>>>>>> Even with taxes and shipping I can't get that number. Keep in mind that >>>>>>> choosing colored aluminum pieces costs more. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >We should probably also get at least one spool of plastic so we can >>>>>>> jump start the pay-per-print thing. If they fit, >maybe we can get some >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> Ward's at $50 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Based on the advertised print speeds I would imagine this printer >>>>>>> uses 1.75 mm filament although that could always be changed with a new >>>>>>> extruder/hot end kit. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Does anyone know what the print speed of the Thing-o-matic is? I >>>>>>> think the build envelope is only 120mmx120mmx120mm. That is quite >>>>>>> small, if >>>>>>> correct. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Benjamin Bergman < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm waiting on a response from their support team to confirm that >>>>>>>> all required parts are included, but it looks like we can have it for >>>>>>>> $1650 >>>>>>>> + whatever duty there is at the border. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We should probably also get at least one spool of plastic so we can >>>>>>>> jump start the pay-per-print thing. If they fit, maybe we can get some >>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>> Ward's at $50, otherwise we need to get one shipped for maybe $75-100. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Benjamin Bergman < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Editing the wiki now. Will look up shipping shortly. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:23 AM, Ron <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sounds good to me! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If you could figure out the final cost, that'd be great. We're at >>>>>>>>>> $1250 >>>>>>>>>> right now, I can post to announce@ again when we have the final >>>>>>>>>> option. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Also, would you mind posting the two choices to the wiki page? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Ron >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 2013-01-31 09:14, Benjamin Bergman wrote: >>>>>>>>>> > Mendel Max 2.0 sounds great! They have a free parts upgrade for >>>>>>>>>> the beta, >>>>>>>>>> > so any parts that change in the final release could be ours for >>>>>>>>>> just the >>>>>>>>>> > price of shipping. >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > So, now we just need to figure out the shipping cost and then >>>>>>>>>> we can >>>>>>>>>> > propose that as the #1 choice. I think Ward's Thing-o-Matic is >>>>>>>>>> still a >>>>>>>>>> > decent second choice in case we can't raise enough as it is >>>>>>>>>> shipping free, >>>>>>>>>> > works, and has free setup + instruction from him. >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 1:38 AM, Stefan H.A < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > > I've been looking at the availability of printers and I'd >>>>>>>>>> like to add >>>>>>>>>> > > another for consideration. >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > First off, the Mendel Max Pro doesn't seem to be available >>>>>>>>>> anymore. The >>>>>>>>>> > > website linked to in the Make review now sells what seems to >>>>>>>>>> be a more >>>>>>>>>> > > expensive version of the printer I'm about to talk about. >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> http://trinitylabs.com/products/aluminatus-trinityone-3d-printer >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > The Mendel Max 2.0 is my primary recommendation, if we can >>>>>>>>>> get one. Here's >>>>>>>>>> > > why. >>>>>>>>>> > > http://www.mendelmax.com/ >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > Pros: >>>>>>>>>> > > - Print Area Dimensions: 245 mm x 315 mm x 225 mm >>>>>>>>>> (9.6"x12.4"x8.9") >>>>>>>>>> > > - Usable Maximum Print Speed: 250mm/sec or more depending on >>>>>>>>>> the part, >>>>>>>>>> > > print material, and extruder >>>>>>>>>> > > - Frame: All aluminum >>>>>>>>>> > > http://www.mendelmax.com/?wiki=mendelmax-versions >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > Cons: >>>>>>>>>> > > - Currently in beta >>>>>>>>>> > > - Won't ship until February 25 >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > Availability: >>>>>>>>>> > > -$1395.00 as a kit >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> http://store.makerstoolworks.com/printer-kits/mendelmax-2-0-beta-kit/ >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > It prints 100mm/sec faster and has a larger print envelope >>>>>>>>>> than both the >>>>>>>>>> > > Ultimaker and the Mendel Max 1.5. It is also closely related >>>>>>>>>> to the open >>>>>>>>>> > > source Reprap project and community. >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > Ultimaker. >>>>>>>>>> > > http://ultimaker.com/ >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > Specs: >>>>>>>>>> > > - Print Area Dimensions: 211mm x 211mm x 211mm >>>>>>>>>> (8.3″×8.3″×8.3″) >>>>>>>>>> > > - Print Speed: 150mm/sec >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > Availability: >>>>>>>>>> > > - $2310.00 fully assembled, however I suspect it might be >>>>>>>>>> prohibitively >>>>>>>>>> > > expensive to ship from Europe. >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> https://shop.ultimaker.com/en/assembled-ultimakers/assembled-um.html >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > - $1625.00 as a kit >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> https://shop.ultimaker.com/en/ultimaker-kits/ultimaker-kit-new.html >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > Mendel Max 1.5. >>>>>>>>>> > > http://reprap.org/wiki/MendelMax >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > Specs: >>>>>>>>>> > > - Print Area Dimensions: ~215-230 mm x ~215-250 mm x ~140-175 >>>>>>>>>> mm >>>>>>>>>> > > (9"x10"x7") >>>>>>>>>> > > - Print Speed: 150mm/sec >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > Availability: >>>>>>>>>> > > - $1906.00 fully assembled, shipping $498.82 >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> http://www.ebay.ca/itm/New-Fully-Assembled-and-Tuned-IC3D-RepRap-3D-Printer-MendelMax-/111002420941?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19d84286cd >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > - $900.00 - $1200.00 as a kit, shipping $120.00 - $160.00 >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Mendelmax-Ultimate-3d-printer-kit-Ramps-LCD-Printed-Parts-Complete-Color-Choice-/281055575886?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item417037bf4e >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> http://www.ebay.ca/itm/RepRap-MendelMax-1-5-Unassembled-Complete-Kit-/230910586303?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35c357edbf >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > Making a secondary recommendation between these two printers >>>>>>>>>> is difficult >>>>>>>>>> > > because I don't know very much about the Ultimaker style of >>>>>>>>>> printer. I was >>>>>>>>>> > > prepared to recommend the Ultimaker over the Mendel Max 1.5 >>>>>>>>>> until I >>>>>>>>>> > > converted the build dimensions into the same units and >>>>>>>>>> realized the Mendel >>>>>>>>>> > > Max 1.5 has about the same or more print area (depending on >>>>>>>>>> where you look >>>>>>>>>> > > it up), although less height. As far as print resolution >>>>>>>>>> (z-axis >>>>>>>>>> > > resolution) is concerned, because these printers use threaded >>>>>>>>>> rod to drive >>>>>>>>>> > > the z-axis they are all mechanically capable of printing down >>>>>>>>>> to very low >>>>>>>>>> > > layer heights like .04mm. The ability to do so will depend on >>>>>>>>>> what kind of >>>>>>>>>> > > extruder nozzle is fitted to the printer and how you >>>>>>>>>> configure the slicing >>>>>>>>>> > > software. Given all of this I think my secondary >>>>>>>>>> recommendation is still >>>>>>>>>> > > the Mendal Max 1.5. 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