Quick and dirty mockup (elements aren't quite lined up):
http://imgur.com/iHE3J4M

Disclaimer: I'm clearly not a designer. Designer input is still welcome :D

On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 6:42 PM, Ian Trump <[email protected]> wrote:
> It should have Ron's Social Insurance number on it.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 2013-08-30, at 18:28, "Ron" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Don't put any phone number. Put the web site, then we can change info as
> needed.
>
>
> Roswyne <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> And I had been thinking of the address and phone number as key, on the
> theory an interested person could phone anytime and see if it was ok to drop
> in.
>
> That's probably based on my impulsive nature, and the fact I wouldn't be
> willing to give out my personal # to someone I just met.
>
> On the other hand, the SkSp # is at the door and on the website, so you're
> probably right to think of the card as a personal reminder/contact.
>
> How is the SkSp general voicemail currently managed?  Do directors randomly
> check it, or what?  Do we consider the SkSp phone/voicemail a reliable
> method of contact, or is it still "quirky"?
>
> I am leery of printing any one person's number on the card, as that creates
> a bottleneck if they aren't available.
>
> The white background logo would look great, now that you mention it. I guess
> I'm just too used to our black stickers and shirts.
>
> What do you think of using the orange text, either entirely, or selectively?
> The logo, of course, should retain all of its colouring, regardless of the
> rest of the card. :)
>
> On Aug 30, 2013 5:38 PM, "Jay Smith" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Siu, and also, thanks for creating a separate email thread about
>> this!
>>
>> The key thing to remember about business cards, and the major way it
>> differs from leaflets and brochures, is that a business card is more about
>> establishing personal contacts and less about advertising. For example, many
>> people consider it rude to be given a business card without having asked for
>> it first (although this is something I see disregarded often at gatherings).
>> These cards will find their way into media contacts and members of other
>> hackerspaces.
>>
>> That said, this mockup is much more in the ballpark of what I'd want to
>> use in the wild. Quick comments:
>>
>> 1) I'd actually leave the SkullSpace phone number off of the card. If
>> anybody has questions about SkullSpace or wants to talk to a SkullSpace
>> representative, the phone inside SkullSpace is definitely not the number to
>> call. This is where personal cards come in handy, or the ability to write
>> Ron's phone number onto the card :D
>>
>> 2) Personally I like your idea of filling up an entire back-side of the
>> card with the logo. I think the version of the logo with the white
>> background would look amazing on a business card, especially if
>> embossed/debossed on thick card stock with a nice texture to it. Black might
>> work just as well too, but I've always had a personal love of the white
>> logo.
>>
>> 2b) It's impossible to use the words "Embossed", "Debossed", and
>> "Textured" when talking about business cards without sounding like Patrick
>> Bateman[1]
>>
>> 3) The info on the front is good, I just think we need to tidy up the
>> layout a bit and use a proper address format. We can probably line up all of
>> the text on the left side of the card and balance it out with the round
>> skull logo. I'll see if I have time to throw together a mockup tonight. When
>> it comes down to it though, you can't beat the eye and taste of an actual
>> designer.
>>
>> 4) Are there any actual designers out there that want to help? Please?
>> I'll give you cookies. I'd rather outsource this whole thing to an actual
>> designer and not bikeshed it out here :)
>>
>> - Jay / @sporked
>>
>> [1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoIvd3zzu4Y
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 4:37 PM, Roswyne <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Thanks Jay! Your feedback is really helpful. I've never thought of these
>> > as being personal in any way, so I hadn't considered room for a name or
>> > personal contact information.
>> >
>> > I was hoping to use the "knowledge.information.technology" logo, which
>> > doesn't leave much room on the front for any other text, but might leave
>> > enough room for a handwritten name/phone #, if we leave the remainder of
>> > the
>> > front white, instead of filling with black.
>> >
>> > I think we could reasonably put the address, website, etc. on the back.
>> > Double-sided cards really aren't much extra, and this would let us use
>> > larger text for clarity.
>> >
>> > Here's my latest concept. I agree that QR codes aren't useful, and am
>> > willing to trust that anyone who wants to contact us via
>> > Facebook/Twitter
>> > etc. can darned well go to our website. however, it seems redundant
>> > (given
>> > what I assume to be our target market) to list both the website and
>> > email
>> > address, so I just put the general email address.
>> >
>> > On Aug 30, 2013 11:54 AM, "Jay Smith" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Ditto to what Justin said. Business cards work better as a reminder
>> >> than
>> >> a stand-alone sales pitch. The idea is that I - the loyal SkullSpace
>> >> member - will meet and talk to someone interested in the organization.
>> >> During the conversation, I will give them a business card. The card
>> >> gives them a simple reminder of the conversation, as well as gives them
>> >> the information they need to follow up with me.
>> >>
>> >> I can't speak for everyone, but this is what I need when I'm
>> >> networking/promoting with business cards:
>> >>
>> >> - Website
>> >> - Organization name
>> >> - Organization address
>> >> - My name*
>> >> - My email*
>> >> - My phone number*
>> >> - General branding: Logo, colour scheme, and
>> >> knowledge.community.technology
>> >>
>> >> Optional:
>> >> - Hours for the general weekly meeting
>> >>
>> >> What I don't want on a business card:
>> >> - ANYTHING ELSE. Especially not advertisements for free business card
>> >> companies.
>> >>
>> >> *For general non-personalized SkullSpace business cards, the email
>> >> address should be [email protected]. However, the back of the card
>> >> should be left *blank* so I can write in my own contact info or the
>> >> contact info of one of the board members.
>> >>
>> >> With that in mind, I'm going to spend my lunch break shamelessly
>> >> judging
>> >> the business cards of the other hackerspaces :D
>> >>
>> >> 1) ENTS: Absolutely perfect for a non-personalized business card. Clean
>> >> design, on point branding, and the back is left blank for personal
>> >> info.
>> >>
>> >> 2) Protospace: Winning when it comes to pretty design and branding, but
>> >> not as functional for facilitating follow-up. No website link, no room
>> >> for personal contact info, etc. In a world with google this isn't a
>> >> problem for prospective members, but media contacts and non tech people
>> >> might be irked. Some may argue that the QR code is as good as a website
>> >> link; I personally would like to meet someone who still scans QR codes
>> >> after the novelty wore off.
>> >>
>> >> 3) Scoperta: Fail on the branding. I seriously have two other cards
>> >> with
>> >> the exact same free business card design in my wallet *right now*. I
>> >> have more at home. This card will blend right in with them. However, it
>> >> is still quite functional and has everything needed for follow-up
>> >> contact. The design is a terrible shame though, especially since
>> >> Scoperta itself has some nice branding.
>> >>
>> >> ... I can't believe I just spent the first half of my Friday lunch
>> >> break
>> >> on a long-winded email about business cards *facepalm*
>> >>
>> >> - Jay / @Sporked
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
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