If we want to make sure that people have our phone number, we should put it on our Web site, with the proper disclaimers, then put the Web site on the card.
Like A.Michael said, keep it simple. We can put any contact info that won't comfortably (or sanely) fit on the card onto the site, including open nights, phone number, tour info, etc. Ron On 2013-09-01 01:20, Roswyne wrote: > Sorry Jay, just getting frustrated, mostly with myself, I guess, and I > inadvertently put words in your mouth. > > The only reason I could see not to put the space's phone number on the > cards would be if there's any difficulty in responding to voicemail. A > phone seems to be a valuable potential method of contact to offer. > > Although I understand that Ron and Brittany and others give out their own > phone numbers when taking lead on specific issues, these are "company" > business cards, not personal ... so if a # is provided, it should be the > SkSp line. Is providing it going to hurt anything? At worst, I think it may > clutter the card slightly. > On Sep 1, 2013 12:20 AM, "Jay Smith" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > ...The number isn't on the website. It's just in the wiki. > > > > > If no one is willing to return calls, then you're right: the number > > shouldn't be on business cards. > > Right, so I see we've entered the passive aggressive phase of the > > discussion. > > > > Colin, prepare the Thunder-dome. > > > > On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 9:03 PM, Roswyne <[email protected]> wrote: > > > (shrugging) > > > > > > If no one is willing to return calls, then you're right: the number > > > shouldn't be on business cards. > > > > > > By the same reasoning, perhaps we should not print it on the next batch > > of > > > pamphlets, and take it off the website. > > > > > > On Aug 31, 2013 7:47 PM, "Colin Stanners" <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > >> simple solution: after the phone number put the next "if anyone's here". > > >> > > >> > > >> On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 4:18 PM, Jay Smith <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> "I think the cards are incomplete without our phone number." > > >>> Huh? The business card police are not going to hunt you down if you > > >>> create one without a phone number. I'd rather not have to explain to > > >>> everybody I hand the card out to that: 1) It will almost always go to > > >>> voice mail 2) if it doesn't go to voice-mail, you'll get a random > > >>> member and likely not the person you need to talk to. > > >>> > > >>> "Can I have a tour of the space?" doesn't even register on the list of > > >>> things we get phone calls for - and even if it did - that phone number > > >>> is far from the best way to approach it. Brittany gets phone calls for > > >>> SkullSpace Social matters, Ron gets phone calls for media queries, > > >>> I'll likely get phone calls regarding C4 things, Ian will get phone > > >>> calls regarding collaborations with other groups, random members will > > >>> get calls for projects, events, and research they're doing. We are NOT > > >>> going to tell any of our contacts to call an unmanned number to reach > > >>> us. > > >>> > > >>> It is rude, it's useless, and frankly it's embarrassing. > > >>> > > >>> On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 3:56 PM, Roswyne <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>> > I think the cards are incomplete without our phone number. > > >>> > > > >>> > Leaving voicemail isn't offensive: the only potential issue I see is > > if > > >>> > the > > >>> > call isn't returned in a reasonable timeframe. Since it'll go to the > > >>> > same > > >>> > people, I imagine the turnaround would be the same as emailing info@ > > . > > >>> > > > >>> > If you are making a personal contact and provide your personal phone > > >>> > number, > > >>> > then there would naturally be different expectations when calling it, > > >>> > and > > >>> > that's your choice if you want to give out your own number. > > >>> > > > >>> > Thanks very much for working on these, and explaining how cards are > > >>> > used > > >>> > differently than brochures. TIL ! :) > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 10:37 AM, Jay Smith <[email protected]> > > >>> > wrote: > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > But I'm still not sure why we not also list the SkSp phone number. > > >>> >> Mostly because it will likely end in painful frustration for queries > > >>> >> other than "Is anybody at the space right now?", and also because if > > >>> >> I'm giving someone a business card it's likely to facilitate > > follow-up > > >>> >> on something very specific. For example, if it's a media person, I'm > > >>> >> likely going to have them follow up to me directly so I can get them > > >>> >> in touch with the board (Or I might just shamelessly give them Ron > > or > > >>> >> Ian's number - sorry in advance guys!). It's true that the space > > >>> >> voicemail does go straight to [email protected], but I'd consider > > it > > >>> >> pretty rude if somebody gave me the phone number to a voice-mail > > >>> >> system. > > >>> >> > > >>> >> Again, it's important to keep in mind the context in which business > > >>> >> cards are given out. Traditionally, a business card is only given > > out > > >>> >> after a personal connection is made - it's supposed to serve as a > > >>> >> physical representation of that contact (Japanese business culture > > >>> >> takes this to the extreme). I'm not going to give a voice-mail > > number > > >>> >> to a good contact. > > >>> >> > > >>> >> Aside: As they represent personal contacts - business cards are also > > >>> >> supposed to survive for a long time - this is why I'm not a fan of > > >>> >> "free" business cards that fall apart easily. Leaflets and brochures > > >>> >> however, are expected to have the lifespan of however long it takes > > to > > >>> >> read them. > > >>> >> > > >>> >> Your earlier comments seem to indicate that you view business cards > > as > > >>> >> a cheaper replacement for brochures. I'm afraid they don't replace > > >>> >> each other so much as compliment each other. > > >>> >> > > >>> >> - Jay / @Sporked > > >>> >> > > >>> >> Ps. I understand that I'm pulling a total Patrick Bateman when it > > >>> >> comes to business cards, and I apologize to everyone who sees this > > as > > >>> >> an insane amount of bikeshedding over a piece of paper. I just > > really > > >>> >> happen to be fascinated by the design and thought that goes into > > >>> >> mundane things like this :) > > >>> >> > > >>> >> On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Roswyne <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > >>> >> > I think that looks great! > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > But I'm still not sure why we not also list the SkSp phone number. > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > Even if it's not ideal (for instant communication), it's got > > >>> >> > voicemail > > >>> >> > which > > >>> >> > the directors automatically receive, in much the same way the > > info@ > > >>> >> > address > > >>> >> > works, afaik. > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > And a blank back for notes etc. Per what Jay was saying :) > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > Sent from my BlackBerry? smartphone on the MTS High Speed Mobility > > >>> >> > Network > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > -----Original Message----- > > >>> >> > From: Jeremy Hiebert <[email protected]> > > >>> >> > Sender: [email protected]: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 > > >>> >> > 17:50:37 > > >>> >> > To: [email protected]<[email protected]> > > >>> >> > Reply-To: [email protected] > > >>> >> > Subject: Re: [SkullSpace-Discuss] SkSp business cards > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > _______________________________________________ > > >>> >> > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > > >>> >> > Help: > > http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > > >>> >> > Archive: > > https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > > >>> >> > _______________________________________________ > > >>> >> > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > > >>> >> > Help: > > http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > > >>> >> > Archive: > > https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > _______________________________________________ > > >>> >> > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > > >>> >> > Help: > > http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > > >>> >> > Archive: > > https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > > >>> >> _______________________________________________ > > >>> >> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > > >>> >> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > > >>> >> Archive: > > https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > _______________________________________________ > > >>> > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > > >>> > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > > >>> > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > >>> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > > >>> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > > >>> Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > > >> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > > >> Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > > > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > > > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > > _______________________________________________ > > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > > > _______________________________________________ > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ _______________________________________________ SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/
