Michael,

I know you prefer all white/black, but I think I'm in love with design
1b - it's my favorite in this thread so far. I hope you don't mind,
but I took the liberty of converting it to SVG. Hopefully I didn't mix
anything up in the process:
http://wiki.skullspace.ca/index.php/File:CardBack.svg
http://wiki.skullspace.ca/index.php/File:CardFront.svg

Feel free to edit, tweek, and reupload the cards as you wish :) I've
been using Inkscape for the card design - it's a fantastic piece of
free open source software for working with vector graphics. The SVGs
for our official logos may also be found here:
http://wiki.skullspace.ca/index.php/Logo

The T-Rex may be found in a variety of formats - including SVG - here:
http://www.wpclipart.com/animals/extinct/dinosaur/T_rex/T_Rex.png.html
He can be found saying wonderful things here: http://www.qwantz.com/index.php

On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 4:00 AM, Michael K
<[email protected]> wrote:
> These are roughly what I was talking about, from a quick copy-paste-edit of
> Jay’s pics. The ‘b’ files have the mailing address removed, because I really
> don’t think that’s necessary (in the true sense of the word) for a business
> card. Lighter is better.
>
> I mentioned just slicing the card in half with a luminosity inversion, but
> as you can see it’ll most likely look terrible. I think all-white or
> all-black would look best, with the option of using a straight white side or
> a big white circle (but not an ellipse) mostly off the canvas.
>
> Sorry for all the attachments, but it’s late and I just want to get to bed.
>
> From: Michael K
> Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 3:09 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [SkullSpace-Discuss] SkSp business cards
>
> If the people giving out the cards were always in the habit of writing their
> number (or the contextually-important member’s number) on the back (in clean
> professional numerals!) would remove all concerns about not having such a
> valuable potential method of contact &c.
> There are a few reasons:
> -The number depends on who the person is interested in speaking with
> (events, C4, organizational, etc)
> -It would be hard to get cards done for everyone who’s phone was needed
> -If any numbers change, those cards would be invalidated
> -The main SkSp phone is mostly used to check if people are there, when
> someone doesn’t want to putter around there alone. Most people who just
> happen to be there would have an awkward time just letting random people in
> and giving them tours. (Tuesday is much better for that)
>
> Of Jay’s latest, #2.3 is the best one. The logo in 2.0 squishes everything
> else horribly, and in 2.2 the curve just kind of separates it. As it is, the
> logo in 2.3 looks too low unless you look at it from the right context.
>
> The main difference I see between 1.1 and 2.1 is that one uses white and the
> other uses black. What about using an all-white or all-black card? The
> typography and the simple accent colour would be the only elements needed to
> reinforce our brand image. If we wanted some funky dissonance, we could draw
> a line from the top about a third in to the bottom about two thirds in, and
> everything on the right side of that could be inverted to white-on-black.
> I’ll play with a couple themes and post them.
>
> We could get a two-sided card sort of like the back of that other one
> (http://imgur.com/iHE3J4M), but more like a soft watermark so that it’s easy
> to write over. And embiggened so that the left third of the circle and the
> tips of the right-most letters clip off the edge?
>
> From: Roswyne
> Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 1:20 AM
> To: Skull Space Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [SkullSpace-Discuss] SkSp business cards
>
>
> Sorry Jay, just getting frustrated, mostly with myself, I guess, and I
> inadvertently put words in your mouth.
>
> The only reason I could see not to put the space's phone number on the cards
> would be if there's any difficulty in responding to voicemail. A phone seems
> to be a valuable potential method of contact to offer.
>
> Although I understand that Ron and Brittany and others give out their own
> phone numbers when taking lead on specific issues, these are "company"
> business cards, not personal ... so if a # is provided, it should be the
> SkSp line. Is providing it going to hurt anything? At worst, I think it may
> clutter the card slightly.
>
> On Sep 1, 2013 12:20 AM, "Jay Smith" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> ...The number isn't on the website. It's just in the wiki.
>>
>> > If no one is willing to return calls, then you're right: the number
>> > shouldn't be on business cards.
>> Right, so I see we've entered the passive aggressive phase of the
>> discussion.
>>
>> Colin, prepare the Thunder-dome.
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 9:03 PM, Roswyne <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > (shrugging)
>> >
>> > If no one is willing to return calls, then you're right: the number
>> > shouldn't be on business cards.
>> >
>> > By the same reasoning, perhaps we should not print it on the next batch
>> > of
>> > pamphlets, and take it off the website.
>> >
>> > On Aug 31, 2013 7:47 PM, "Colin Stanners" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> simple solution: after the phone number put the next "if anyone's
>> >> here".
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 4:18 PM, Jay Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> "I think the cards are incomplete without our phone number."
>> >>> Huh? The business card police are not going to hunt you down if you
>> >>> create one without a phone number. I'd rather not have to explain to
>> >>> everybody I hand the card out to that: 1) It will almost always go to
>> >>> voice mail 2) if it doesn't go to voice-mail, you'll get a random
>> >>> member and likely not the person you need to talk to.
>> >>>
>> >>> "Can I have a tour of the space?" doesn't even register on the list of
>> >>> things we get phone calls for - and even if it did - that phone number
>> >>> is far from the best way to approach it. Brittany gets phone calls for
>> >>> SkullSpace Social matters, Ron gets phone calls for media queries,
>> >>> I'll likely get phone calls regarding C4 things, Ian will get phone
>> >>> calls regarding collaborations with other groups, random members will
>> >>> get calls for projects, events, and research they're doing. We are NOT
>> >>> going to tell any of our contacts to call an unmanned number to reach
>> >>> us.
>> >>>
>> >>> It is rude, it's useless, and frankly it's embarrassing.
>> >>>
>> >>> On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 3:56 PM, Roswyne <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>> > I think the cards are incomplete without our phone number.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Leaving voicemail isn't offensive: the only potential issue I see is
>> >>> > if
>> >>> > the
>> >>> > call isn't returned in a reasonable timeframe.  Since it'll go to
>> >>> > the
>> >>> > same
>> >>> > people, I imagine the turnaround would be the same as emailing
>> >>> > info@.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > If you are making a personal contact and provide your personal phone
>> >>> > number,
>> >>> > then there would naturally be different expectations when calling
>> >>> > it,
>> >>> > and
>> >>> > that's your choice if you want to give out your own number.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Thanks very much for working on these, and explaining how cards are
>> >>> > used
>> >>> > differently than brochures.  TIL !  :)
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 10:37 AM, Jay Smith <[email protected]>
>> >>> > wrote:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> > But I'm still not sure why we not also list the SkSp phone
>> >>> >> > number.
>> >>> >> Mostly because it will likely end in painful frustration for
>> >>> >> queries
>> >>> >> other than "Is anybody at the space right now?", and also because
>> >>> >> if
>> >>> >> I'm giving someone a business card it's likely to facilitate
>> >>> >> follow-up
>> >>> >> on something very specific. For example, if it's a media person,
>> >>> >> I'm
>> >>> >> likely going to have them follow up to me directly so I can get
>> >>> >> them
>> >>> >> in touch with the board (Or I might just shamelessly give them Ron
>> >>> >> or
>> >>> >> Ian's number - sorry in advance guys!). It's true that the space
>> >>> >> voicemail does go straight to [email protected], but I'd consider
>> >>> >> it
>> >>> >> pretty rude if somebody gave me the phone number to a voice-mail
>> >>> >> system.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Again, it's important to keep in mind the context in which business
>> >>> >> cards are given out. Traditionally, a business card is only given
>> >>> >> out
>> >>> >> after a personal connection is made - it's supposed to serve as a
>> >>> >> physical representation of that contact (Japanese business culture
>> >>> >> takes this to the extreme). I'm not going to give a voice-mail
>> >>> >> number
>> >>> >> to a good contact.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Aside: As they represent personal contacts - business cards are
>> >>> >> also
>> >>> >> supposed to survive for a long time - this is why I'm not a fan of
>> >>> >> "free" business cards that fall apart easily. Leaflets and
>> >>> >> brochures
>> >>> >> however, are expected to have the lifespan of however long it takes
>> >>> >> to
>> >>> >> read them.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Your earlier comments seem to indicate that you view business cards
>> >>> >> as
>> >>> >> a cheaper replacement for brochures. I'm afraid they don't replace
>> >>> >> each other so much as compliment each other.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> - Jay / @Sporked
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Ps. I understand that I'm pulling a total Patrick Bateman when it
>> >>> >> comes to business cards, and I apologize to everyone who sees this
>> >>> >> as
>> >>> >> an insane amount of bikeshedding over a piece of paper. I just
>> >>> >> really
>> >>> >> happen to be fascinated by the design and thought that goes into
>> >>> >> mundane things like this :)
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Roswyne <[email protected]>
>> >>> >> wrote:
>> >>> >> > I think that looks great!
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > But I'm still not sure why we not also list the SkSp phone
>> >>> >> > number.
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > Even if it's not ideal (for instant communication), it's got
>> >>> >> > voicemail
>> >>> >> > which
>> >>> >> > the directors automatically receive, in much the same way the
>> >>> >> > info@
>> >>> >> > address
>> >>> >> > works, afaik.
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > And a blank back for notes etc. Per what Jay was saying :)
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone on the MTS High Speed
>> >>> >> > Mobility
>> >>> >> > Network
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > -----Original Message-----
>> >>> >> > From: Jeremy Hiebert <[email protected]>
>> >>> >> > Sender: [email protected]: Fri, 30 Aug 2013
>> >>> >> > 17:50:37
>> >>> >> > To: [email protected]<[email protected]>
>> >>> >> > Reply-To: [email protected]
>> >>> >> > Subject: Re: [SkullSpace-Discuss] SkSp business cards
>> >>> >> >
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