...The number isn't on the website. It's just in the wiki. > If no one is willing to return calls, then you're right: the number shouldn't > be on business cards. Right, so I see we've entered the passive aggressive phase of the discussion.
Colin, prepare the Thunder-dome. On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 9:03 PM, Roswyne <[email protected]> wrote: > (shrugging) > > If no one is willing to return calls, then you're right: the number > shouldn't be on business cards. > > By the same reasoning, perhaps we should not print it on the next batch of > pamphlets, and take it off the website. > > On Aug 31, 2013 7:47 PM, "Colin Stanners" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> simple solution: after the phone number put the next "if anyone's here". >> >> >> On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 4:18 PM, Jay Smith <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> "I think the cards are incomplete without our phone number." >>> Huh? The business card police are not going to hunt you down if you >>> create one without a phone number. I'd rather not have to explain to >>> everybody I hand the card out to that: 1) It will almost always go to >>> voice mail 2) if it doesn't go to voice-mail, you'll get a random >>> member and likely not the person you need to talk to. >>> >>> "Can I have a tour of the space?" doesn't even register on the list of >>> things we get phone calls for - and even if it did - that phone number >>> is far from the best way to approach it. Brittany gets phone calls for >>> SkullSpace Social matters, Ron gets phone calls for media queries, >>> I'll likely get phone calls regarding C4 things, Ian will get phone >>> calls regarding collaborations with other groups, random members will >>> get calls for projects, events, and research they're doing. We are NOT >>> going to tell any of our contacts to call an unmanned number to reach >>> us. >>> >>> It is rude, it's useless, and frankly it's embarrassing. >>> >>> On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 3:56 PM, Roswyne <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > I think the cards are incomplete without our phone number. >>> > >>> > Leaving voicemail isn't offensive: the only potential issue I see is if >>> > the >>> > call isn't returned in a reasonable timeframe. Since it'll go to the >>> > same >>> > people, I imagine the turnaround would be the same as emailing info@. >>> > >>> > If you are making a personal contact and provide your personal phone >>> > number, >>> > then there would naturally be different expectations when calling it, >>> > and >>> > that's your choice if you want to give out your own number. >>> > >>> > Thanks very much for working on these, and explaining how cards are >>> > used >>> > differently than brochures. TIL ! :) >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 10:37 AM, Jay Smith <[email protected]> >>> > wrote: >>> >> >>> >> > But I'm still not sure why we not also list the SkSp phone number. >>> >> Mostly because it will likely end in painful frustration for queries >>> >> other than "Is anybody at the space right now?", and also because if >>> >> I'm giving someone a business card it's likely to facilitate follow-up >>> >> on something very specific. For example, if it's a media person, I'm >>> >> likely going to have them follow up to me directly so I can get them >>> >> in touch with the board (Or I might just shamelessly give them Ron or >>> >> Ian's number - sorry in advance guys!). It's true that the space >>> >> voicemail does go straight to [email protected], but I'd consider it >>> >> pretty rude if somebody gave me the phone number to a voice-mail >>> >> system. >>> >> >>> >> Again, it's important to keep in mind the context in which business >>> >> cards are given out. Traditionally, a business card is only given out >>> >> after a personal connection is made - it's supposed to serve as a >>> >> physical representation of that contact (Japanese business culture >>> >> takes this to the extreme). I'm not going to give a voice-mail number >>> >> to a good contact. >>> >> >>> >> Aside: As they represent personal contacts - business cards are also >>> >> supposed to survive for a long time - this is why I'm not a fan of >>> >> "free" business cards that fall apart easily. Leaflets and brochures >>> >> however, are expected to have the lifespan of however long it takes to >>> >> read them. >>> >> >>> >> Your earlier comments seem to indicate that you view business cards as >>> >> a cheaper replacement for brochures. I'm afraid they don't replace >>> >> each other so much as compliment each other. >>> >> >>> >> - Jay / @Sporked >>> >> >>> >> Ps. I understand that I'm pulling a total Patrick Bateman when it >>> >> comes to business cards, and I apologize to everyone who sees this as >>> >> an insane amount of bikeshedding over a piece of paper. I just really >>> >> happen to be fascinated by the design and thought that goes into >>> >> mundane things like this :) >>> >> >>> >> On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Roswyne <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> > I think that looks great! >>> >> > >>> >> > But I'm still not sure why we not also list the SkSp phone number. >>> >> > >>> >> > Even if it's not ideal (for instant communication), it's got >>> >> > voicemail >>> >> > which >>> >> > the directors automatically receive, in much the same way the info@ >>> >> > address >>> >> > works, afaik. >>> >> > >>> >> > And a blank back for notes etc. Per what Jay was saying :) >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone on the MTS High Speed Mobility >>> >> > Network >>> >> > >>> >> > -----Original Message----- >>> >> > From: Jeremy Hiebert <[email protected]> >>> >> > Sender: [email protected]: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 >>> >> > 17:50:37 >>> >> > To: [email protected]<[email protected]> >>> >> > Reply-To: [email protected] >>> >> > Subject: Re: [SkullSpace-Discuss] SkSp business cards >>> >> > >>> >> > _______________________________________________ >>> >> > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >>> >> > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >>> >> > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >>> >> > _______________________________________________ >>> >> > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >>> >> > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >>> >> > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >>> >> > >>> >> > _______________________________________________ >>> >> > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >>> >> > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >>> >> > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >>> >> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >>> >> Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >>> > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >>> > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >>> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >>> Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List >> Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss >> Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ > > > _______________________________________________ > SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List > Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss > Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/ _______________________________________________ SkullSpace Discuss Mailing List Help: http://www.skullspace.ca/wiki/index.php/Mailing_List#Discuss Archive: https://groups.google.com/group/skullspace-discuss-archive/
