radish;158409 Wrote: 
> You seem to think pretty much everything sucks! Whilst I reserve
> judgment on UPS, and Firefox has been behaving itself for me lately, I
> take issue with your anti-Java rant. Having a JVM running certainly
> adds a memory-usage overhead to your app, it's typically around
> 10-20mb. Java apps can leak memory just as easily as anything else, but
> I notice you don't blame gcc for Firefox's memory problems :)

All software sucks.  This is hardly news...

"typically around 10-20mb" is certainly not the case I see.

Let's look again:
USER       PID %CPU %MEM   VSZ  RSS TTY      STAT START   TIME COMMAND
bem      20812  0.0 11.4 321052 29276 pts/3  S    09:26   0:00
/home/bem/jre1.5.0_07/bin/java -Xbootclasspath/a

Yes, resident size is 29M... look at the virtual size: what the heck is
it doing demanding 320M of virtual memory?

As for gcc/firefox: do recall that C makes no effort at all to provide
for garbage collection and recycling.  I don't blame my cable company
for not picking up the trash: it isn't something they claim to do.  I
will blame my trash company if they don't visit, since that garbage
collection is exactly what they promise.


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