Hello all, Thanks so much contributing your opinions and experiences to this discussion. The Steering Committee is following this conversation with great interest, in the hopes of developing some methods for alleviating hiccups during workshops. There appear to be two separate concerns being voiced here: 1) What are the goals of the SWC shell lesson? and 2) How can we improve the logistics of installing/using a text editor with the shell lesson?
If you would like to continue the conversation about the first concern and the goals of the shell lesson, please redirect your comments to this issue [1], which will allow us to track community consensus more accurately. This lesson has been taught enough that we have a good idea how it is perceived by our learners, and it seems the time is right to revisit our learning objectives and see how they match student interests. If you’re interested in more information about instructor preferences and possible solutions for the second concern (text editors for the shell lesson), you will find this issue of interest [2] and we hope you will continue to add comments there. For now, the Windows installer isn't working, so while we're working to fix that, we'll add instructions for using Atom in a workshop. If you are an instructor teaching the shell lesson soon and are comfortable using Atom (and helping your students get it installed!), please try it out and add to this issue [3] to let us know how it worked. We'll get in touch with people teaching upcoming workshops to let them know about this issue and potential solutions. [1] https://github.com/swcarpentry/shell-novice/issues/542 [2] https://github.com/carpentries/conversations/issues/11 <http://(https//github.com/carpentries/conversations/issues/11> [3] https://github.com/swcarpentry/workshop-template/issues/390 On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 12:46 PM, Karin Lagesen <[email protected]> wrote: > On 30.03.2017 18:15, Carol Willing wrote: > [snip] > >> Unlike nano, Atom was designed for people familiar with web browsing, >> and it could be argued that nano while seeming simple to some is more >> difficult to those that have grown up using the web browser daily. >> Having taught many students in different workshops, Atom just works. It >> takes minutes to install and students have no difficulty using it. I >> haven't seen students have difficulty opening a file or navigating >> directories. >> > > I have taught plenty of 20-something people who had very flimsy ideas of > what a file system was, what a directory was, and where their files were. > This is something they do learn in the shell lesson, but still, having them > maneuver in the directory structure like this for an editor will take time > away from teaching them all the other stuff in the lesson. > > I have no big opinions on editors as such, but for SWC I strongly think it > should be a terminal based editor to avoid these issues. > > Karin > > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.software-carpentry.org/listinfo/discuss > -- Kate L. Hertweck, Ph.D. Assistant Professor, Department of Biology The University of Texas at Tyler 3900 University Blvd., Tyler, TX 75799 Email: [email protected] Office: HPR 109, 903.565.5882 https://www.uttyler.edu/biology/
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