Hi all -- a request to move conversation about this to the relevant GitHub issues, as the Steering Committee asked. Thanks.
-- Sumana Harihareswara Changeset Consulting [email protected] On Fri, Mar 31, 2017, at 01:49 PM, Kate Hertweck wrote: > Hello all, > > Thanks so much contributing your opinions and experiences to this > discussion. The Steering Committee is following this conversation with > great interest, in the hopes of developing some methods for > alleviating hiccups during workshops. There appear to be two separate > concerns being voiced here: 1) What are the goals of the SWC shell > lesson? and 2) How can we improve the logistics of installing/using a > text editor with the shell lesson? > > If you would like to continue the conversation about the first concern > and the goals of the shell lesson, please redirect your comments to > this issue [1], which will allow us to track community consensus more > accurately. This lesson has been taught enough that we have a good > idea how it is perceived by our learners, and it seems the time is > right to revisit our learning objectives and see how they match > student interests. > > If you’re interested in more information about instructor preferences > and possible solutions for the second concern (text editors for the > shell lesson), you will find this issue of interest [2] and we hope > you will continue to add comments there. > > For now, the Windows installer isn't working, so while we're working > to fix that, we'll add instructions for using Atom in a workshop. If > you are an instructor teaching the shell lesson soon and are > comfortable using Atom (and helping your students get it installed!), > please try it out and add to this issue [3] to let us know how it > worked. We'll get in touch with people teaching upcoming workshops to > let them know about this issue and potential solutions. > > [1] https://github.com/swcarpentry/shell-novice/issues/542 > [2] https://github.com/carpentries/conversations/issues/11[1] > [3] https://github.com/swcarpentry/workshop-template/issues/390 > > > On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 12:46 PM, Karin Lagesen > <[email protected]> wrote: >> On 30.03.2017 18:15, Carol Willing wrote: >> [snip] >>> Unlike nano, Atom was designed for people familiar with web >>> browsing, and it could be argued that nano while seeming simple to >>> some is more difficult to those that have grown up using the web >>> browser daily. Having taught many students in different workshops, >>> Atom just works. It takes minutes to install and students have no >>> difficulty using it. I haven't seen students have difficulty opening >>> a file or navigating directories. >> >> I have taught plenty of 20-something people who had very flimsy ideas >> of what a file system was, what a directory was, and where their >> files were. This is something they do learn in the shell lesson, but >> still, having them maneuver in the directory structure like this for >> an editor will take time away from teaching them all the other stuff >> in the lesson. >> >> I have no big opinions on editors as such, but for SWC I strongly >> think it should be a terminal based editor to avoid these issues. >> >> Karin >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Discuss mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.software-carpentry.org/listinfo/discuss > > > > -- > Kate L. Hertweck, Ph.D. > Assistant Professor, Department of Biology > The University of Texas at Tyler > 3900 University Blvd., Tyler, TX 75799 > Email: [email protected] > Office: HPR 109, 903.565.5882 > https://www.uttyler.edu/biology/ > _________________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.software-carpentry.org/listinfo/discuss Links: 1. http://(https//github.com/carpentries/conversations/issues/11
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