On Sat, 08 Jul 2017 08:12:19 +0100
Michael J Jackson <[email protected]> wrote:

> I try and get these points over to students:
> 
> * Git and Github are not synonyms.
> * Git is a version control tool, one of many.
> * Github is a project/repository hosting service, one of many.
> * There are situations where you'd definitely want to use Git but
> will not be able to use GitHub e.g. hosting sensitive/personal
> code/docs/data that must be held on servers in known locations and
> with known security qualities and not just "somewhere" in the world.

Exactly the same here.

Inigo

> 
> Cheers,
> Mike
> 
> Quoting "Waldman, Simon" <[email protected]> on Sat, 8 Jul 2017 06:41:06
> +0000:
> 
> > Surely these are two different things, doing two different jobs?
> > Git > (either command line or through a GUI) on the local machine,
> > and > Github for the remote repo?
> >
> > Or is there a local GUI that also goes by the name of Github? If
> > so, > I recommend *great* care in describing this; if I’m confused
> > by > reading it on the discuss list, I can only imagine that
> > learners > will be too!
> >
> > From: Discuss [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > On Behalf Of Anelda van der Walt Sent: 08 July 2017 06:33
> > To: Bond, Steve (NIH/NHGRI) [F]
> > Cc: Software Carpentry Discussion; John Poole; Bryan Johnston
> > Subject: Re: [Discuss] Git lesson alternative
> >
> > Hi Steve,
> >
> > Thanks very much for sharing!
> >
> > I've been wondering how we can simultaneously give a broader >
> > exposure to GitHub GUI as I (since I'm not a software developer but
> > > often collaborate with others on GitHub) mostly use GitHub and >
> > > haven't had to use git command line probably for a year now
> > > because > I could do everything I needed in the GUI. Not that I
> > > am promoting > not teaching the command line way of using git,
> > > but for people > who've never ever encountered version control it
> > > might be more > accessible to first build a mental model by
> > > learning GitHub and then > going to the next step of learning the
> > > command line tool.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > Anelda
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 6:49 PM, Bond, Steve (NIH/NHGRI) [F] >
> > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Hi Anelda,
> > We have stripped out the entire Dracula example from our workshop
> > at > the NIH, switching to a conversions script example (dollars to
> > > cents, feet to meters, etc). We have also chosen to focus heavily
> > > on > the GitHub UI, instead of some of the terminal commands that
> > > GitHub > otherwise hides.
> > > https://github.com/biologyguy/git-novice So it doesn’t tie in
> > > with gap minder, but we do have our attendees > writing little
> > > programs.
> > There are still some significant kinks though, particularly when we
> > > get to the collaboration and conflict resolution sections. The
> > > last > time we ran the workshop a significant gap developed
> > > between the > faster and slower paced learners that was difficult
> > > to accommodate > as instructors. -Steve
> >
> >
> > From: Anelda van der Walt >
> > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Date:
> > Friday, July 7, 2017 at 12:07 PM To: Software Carpentry Discussion
> > > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> > > Cc: John Poole <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>,
> > > Bryan > Johnston
> > > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> > Subject: [Discuss] Git lesson alternative
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > We'll be running a Software Carpentry workshop later this month and
> > > was discussing the git-novice lesson again today... We would
> > > really > like to show people how real code can be put under
> > > version control > in git/GitHub as opposed to showing the Dracula
> > > story. I know this > conversation has come up several times, and
> > > some instructors have > started to teach git on the morning of
> > > day 2 so that in the > afternoon, when they continue with the
> > > Python lesson, they can show > how it can be used with git. Does
> > > anyone have an edited version of > the git lesson that allows for
> > > integration with the Python gapminder > lesson perhaps?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Anelda
> >
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