Dear all,

Thanks so much for all the suggestions and resources. We'll be working
through this in the next few weeks.

Kind regards,

Anelda

On Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 9:30 AM, Inigo Aldazabal Mensa <
[email protected]> wrote:

> On Sat, 08 Jul 2017 08:12:19 +0100
> Michael J Jackson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I try and get these points over to students:
> >
> > * Git and Github are not synonyms.
> > * Git is a version control tool, one of many.
> > * Github is a project/repository hosting service, one of many.
> > * There are situations where you'd definitely want to use Git but
> > will not be able to use GitHub e.g. hosting sensitive/personal
> > code/docs/data that must be held on servers in known locations and
> > with known security qualities and not just "somewhere" in the world.
>
> Exactly the same here.
>
> Inigo
>
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Mike
> >
> > Quoting "Waldman, Simon" <[email protected]> on Sat, 8 Jul 2017 06:41:06
> > +0000:
> >
> > > Surely these are two different things, doing two different jobs?
> > > Git > (either command line or through a GUI) on the local machine,
> > > and > Github for the remote repo?
> > >
> > > Or is there a local GUI that also goes by the name of Github? If
> > > so, > I recommend *great* care in describing this; if I’m confused
> > > by > reading it on the discuss list, I can only imagine that
> > > learners > will be too!
> > >
> > > From: Discuss [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > > On Behalf Of Anelda van der Walt Sent: 08 July 2017 06:33
> > > To: Bond, Steve (NIH/NHGRI) [F]
> > > Cc: Software Carpentry Discussion; John Poole; Bryan Johnston
> > > Subject: Re: [Discuss] Git lesson alternative
> > >
> > > Hi Steve,
> > >
> > > Thanks very much for sharing!
> > >
> > > I've been wondering how we can simultaneously give a broader >
> > > exposure to GitHub GUI as I (since I'm not a software developer but
> > > > often collaborate with others on GitHub) mostly use GitHub and >
> > > > haven't had to use git command line probably for a year now
> > > > because > I could do everything I needed in the GUI. Not that I
> > > > am promoting > not teaching the command line way of using git,
> > > > but for people > who've never ever encountered version control it
> > > > might be more > accessible to first build a mental model by
> > > > learning GitHub and then > going to the next step of learning the
> > > > command line tool.
> > >
> > > Kind regards,
> > >
> > > Anelda
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 6:49 PM, Bond, Steve (NIH/NHGRI) [F] >
> > > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Hi Anelda,
> > > We have stripped out the entire Dracula example from our workshop
> > > at > the NIH, switching to a conversions script example (dollars to
> > > > cents, feet to meters, etc). We have also chosen to focus heavily
> > > > on > the GitHub UI, instead of some of the terminal commands that
> > > > GitHub > otherwise hides.
> > > > https://github.com/biologyguy/git-novice So it doesn’t tie in
> > > > with gap minder, but we do have our attendees > writing little
> > > > programs.
> > > There are still some significant kinks though, particularly when we
> > > > get to the collaboration and conflict resolution sections. The
> > > > last > time we ran the workshop a significant gap developed
> > > > between the > faster and slower paced learners that was difficult
> > > > to accommodate > as instructors. -Steve
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Anelda van der Walt >
> > > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Date:
> > > Friday, July 7, 2017 at 12:07 PM To: Software Carpentry Discussion
> > > > <[email protected]<mailto:discuss@
> lists.software-carpentry.org>>
> > > > Cc: John Poole <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>,
> > > > Bryan > Johnston
> > > > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> > > Subject: [Discuss] Git lesson alternative
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > We'll be running a Software Carpentry workshop later this month and
> > > > was discussing the git-novice lesson again today... We would
> > > > really > like to show people how real code can be put under
> > > > version control > in git/GitHub as opposed to showing the Dracula
> > > > story. I know this > conversation has come up several times, and
> > > > some instructors have > started to teach git on the morning of
> > > > day 2 so that in the > afternoon, when they continue with the
> > > > Python lesson, they can show > how it can be used with git. Does
> > > > anyone have an edited version of > the git lesson that allows for
> > > > integration with the Python gapminder > lesson perhaps?
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > Anelda
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