On Mon, 24 Aug 2009, Jeff & Heather Malloch wrote:

> In the context though of a newbie starting out, I think they need some
> skills that would let them stand out in a crowd and that was my point here.

Yeah.  It must be harder starting out now.

> possible by researching where the people are needed) and then round yourself
> out with the "skills" I noted.  Sure, I agree completely after 10+ years in
> the field you and I can do things that not anyone can.  I also work with
> folks who are even better than I at some things that have less experience.
> But REAL experience and REAL training isn't cheap (and I think that only
> comes when you are working).  And for the most part "skills" can be taught
> when needed and thus are considered fairly "cheap" in my books.  It's that
> experience part that's hard to get and quantify.

Ah yes.  I agree with that :)  Experience is the key, and there's only one 
way to get it - the hard way :)

> As I believe was mentioned in another thread there is also a big BS factor
> that comes into play with people and "IT/IS" and what they know (or think

Yes this is quite a problem.

> I can honestly say after 15+ years I STILL learn new stuff every day.  And
> if I didn't, I probably wouldn't be doing it.

Agreed, on both points.

On the topic of learning new stuff... I'm developing a new site 
(practicalsysadmin.com).  It's partly to layout my approach to being a 
sysadmin to help others, but it's also partly to help me revise the things 
I've learnt in the past :)

Cheers,

Rob

-- 
I tried to change the world but they had a no-return policy
http://www.practicalsysadmin.com
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