all I'm saying here wilber, is that Itunes is not the one answeer for everything and its a fashion and wrong in many ways. a lot of people think Microsoft isn't wrong for using propriortory formats like wma and drm wma but apple does the same with the music you download from Itunes. but no one is crying about that. believe me, I hate M$ more than anyone but you can't excuse apple because its apple for its faults.
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On Aug 8, 2006, at 2:33 AM, James Austin wrote:

It seems the only really bitching here is you Gabriel - and for some one who wants to slam ITunes you are quite comfortable to use it to rip CD's etc - a little odd for someone who uncatogorically describes ITunes as "garbage".

James
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gabriel Vega" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by theblind" <[email protected]>
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ok, I'll spell it out:

for music, there is easynews.com
for podcatching there are plenty of scripts out there written for podcatching, weather they are apple scripts or bash scripts, they're scrips.

for ripping, itunes does it for me just fine, automatically at that.

for dvd ripping there is one of those also, its on my desktop and can't look up the name just yet, instead of coming up on here bitching, why not use the mac pedia, thats what's its there for, you keep finding short comings of the mac, and itunes isn't the answer, i told you itunes is garbage. period!
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On Aug 7, 2006, at 6:38 PM, hank smith wrote:

can you tell us what other recommendations for podcasting, buying music, cd ripping etc then for alternitives? cause if you can't recommend any alternitives to replace itunes then your oppenion has no weight. so if you know of alternitives tell on fill us all in dude. seriously. as it stands now I have yet to find a podcatcher that works then itunes the cd ripper haven't found one that is easy to set up etc. the last one I tried crashed my mac.
buying music you know of any besides all of mp3 that works? etc.
what are alternitives do we have currently?
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Gabriel Vega" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by theblind" <[email protected]>
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But my opinion caries weight my mman.


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On Aug 7, 2006, at 6:03 PM, hank smith wrote:

thats just your oppenion mr. gabe
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Gabriel Vega" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by theblind" <[email protected]>
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dear god, I agree. I'm not quite sure where this blind fashion (excuse the pun) but damn, its annoying as hell to hear the first question that is ask when ever I bring up the mac for the blind is "does it work with ITunes?"

no! and who cares. if you want to buy music there are plenty of places to do that, podcasting, mp3 and media playere there are tons of places for that also, itunes is a piece of garbage in my book and I think its a fashion!!!!

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On Aug 7, 2006, at 5:26 PM, James Austin wrote:

Hi folks,

I don't honestly think that ITunes support is that important. Okay I'll admit i was more than a little surprised when Voice Over didntt work with Apple's ITunes - one of its trademark products, but well do we really need it - I've deleted it from my mac.

James
----- Original Message ----- From: "christos hux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by theblind" <[email protected]>
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in the mac news websites and a few podcasts on coverage of Steve Jobs wwdc keynote they say nothing about the new accessability. I was glad to see this news about a improved voice over i guess this will be 2.0 version. That is super cool though in having the ceo of a major company like this demo such a small nich highly important feature like this. Doubt others would be as berave or thoughtful hint ms. It would also be great of Apple if they did another beta test program for leopard accessaibility like they did for tiger voice over version 1. From what I heard and read about the leopard features that were being reported on I was not very impresed and thining I might pass on it,now I am excitied with the new updated accessaibility. I hope itunes will be much more useable this time around and we will able to access the itunes store with vo.















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