I don't think this is actually a VO issue. Someone can correct
me if I'm wrong, but I believe the cursor and positing and editing
is actually a Mac OS feature.
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On Sep 20, 2006, at 12:51 PM, Harry Bates wrote:
I appreciate your post very much, since it makes some sense now
when editing a textedit document with VO. It clarifies why I have
been getting so frustrated, since now all I have to remember, when
editing a text, is from what direction I am coming, left or right.
I must say though that I prefer simplicity, which is at the heart
of using JAWS. with a PC. The character in focus is voiced, and a
press of the delete key either the backspace delete, which deletes
the character just prior to the spoken character , or the forward
delete will always delete the character spoken. With JAWS
inserting a character is always done to the left adjacent to the
spoken character. There is no need to remember from which
direction you approached the spoken character. In fact I do not
know why VO could not be made to be simple. I hope they make this
possible in a future update of VO.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Kilburn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac
OS X by theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 11:37 AM
Subject: Re: TextEdit and Vo
Hi Harry,
I'll try to answer your questions although some of this has
already been covered.
1. When reading/editing text in TE, think like this, if you've
passed over a word/character from left to right, then the cursor
is sitting at the right of whatever you've passed over.
Therefore, pressing the "Delete" key will remove anything just to
the left of it. conversely, moving right to left, the cursor
will be sitting just to the left of whatever was just read to
you. When inserting something,, remember which direction you're
coming from and place the cursor accordingly. You are correct
that it is probably your JAWS experience that is confusing the
issue. I had the opposite problem as I was a Mac user first and
a JAWS user second. It took me quite a while and frustration to
learn how JAWS dealt with things and as a matter of interest, I
prefer the Mac as it seems more logical to me. My opinion of
course.
2. Closing/Saving stuff in TextEdit. One thing to note is that
for the most part, expecially in applicaitons, closing a Window
only closes the window or document, not the complete
application. That is, if you close a TE document using cmd+w or
File menu and Close,, you still have the TE application open
whereas Quitting the application will Close and Quit it. When
doing either, if you have not already saved your changes, you
will be asked to do so. the default choice is to save it so
pressing "Return" will save it automatically. If the document
has never been saved before, then a dialog will appear giving you
options for where to save it and what name to give it. You can
also navigate through "Do you Waant to Save" dialogs using VO then
pressing VO keys+space on the choice you wish to apply.
3. i suggest you save any documents and quit all aps before
logging off or shutting down. this is just good computing
practice and is far safer than relying on your OS to remember
that this wasn't done and therefore asking you just before
logging off or shutting down.
Hope this helps some. Keep the questions coming though, we're
here to help.
Later...
Tim Kilburn
& Carter the Canine
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
