Thanks, and your later message sort of confirmed my suspicion. Had I known you weren't shut down, we could have gone with that. You would still have had a divel of a time though. Now, to shut down, press power, just tap it, press enter. if you want to restart, press power, tap it, press space.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Cavendish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS Xby theblind" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 6:18 AM Subject: Re: SOS: can't get mu VO to work after upgrading to Leopard Dear David, I bought my Macbook two days ago with Tiger installed. In the box I found a copy of Leopard which I installed last night with a sighted friend and followed the onscreen instructions. It installed all right and even updated itself. The only thing I did in Tiger was to adjust VO settings like the fn key function, cursor tracking and so on, registration etc. Leopard seems to have recognised these I guess because at the update process I was asked for my password so Leopard must have taken it from Tiger. I was at that stage not using VO because a sighted friend was helping me install Leopard and you know it gets on sighted people's nerves to have our technology going. Simon ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Poehlman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS Xby theblind" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 11:08 AM Subject: Re: SOS: can't get mu VO to work after upgrading to Leopard > What install path did you take? If you upgraded unless you are hanging on > some screen, you should have gotten vo to talk by now. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Simon Cavendish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS Xby > theblind" <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 5:21 AM > Subject: Re: SOS: can't get mu VO to work after upgrading to Leopard > > > Dear Esther, > > I hear no boing sound when pressing fn+f6. The only fundction keys that > produce a sound is f9 f10 and f11 without pressing the fn key and f11 will > produce a boing sound with or without pressing the fn key. > > I've tried starting vo presentation by presssing control+option+shift f8 > but > that hasn't started anything either. I've tried messing about with the > control+option+command left/right arrow and then arrow up but to no avail. > > I still haven't been able to find anybody who could look at the screen for > me. A friend promised he might be able to call later on this afternoon if > I > haven't resolved the issue. I'm sorry to be such a bore. I've been using > computers for over 10 years, and here I am feeling like a silly child. > Bear > with me, guys. > > Simon > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Esther" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by > theblind" <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:07 AM > Subject: Re: SOS: can't get mu VO to work after upgrading to Leopard > > >> Dear Simon, >> >> Let's assume that you have a working VoiceOver installation, and >> that your Function keys are turned on to use software function instead >> of hardware function. If your volume is turned up (from pressing >> FN + F5) then when you press F6 you should hear a kind >> of "boing" sound (I think they call it "funk"). Press FN+F6 once. >> You should not hear any sounds at all. Now try pressing Command >> and F5. Does VoiceOver come on? If not, press FN+F6 a second >> time and try Command + F5 again. >> >> The "funk" sound occurs whether or not you have VoiceOver running. >> Please believe that it is unlikely you could have done anything to >> the VoiceOver installation. It's just a question of getting it properly >> started. And nothing that you've done isn't something someone >> else hasn't already had problems with already. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Esther >> >> On Wednesday, December 12, 2007, at 02:31PM, "Richie Gardenhire" >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>The one thing I learned from that experience, to try those steps >>>Esther outlined; Leopard has audible cues that will indicate when >>>VoiceOver is turned on, given all things have been tried. Thanks >>>again, Esther. Richie Gardenhire, Anchorage, Alaska. >>>On Dec 12, 2007, at 3:18 PM, Esther wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Simon, >>>> >>>> Is it possible that you pressed FN+num lock by mistake? The most >>>> likely things are: (1) you don't have the volume up high enough to >>>> hear the VoiceOver voice or (2) you accidentally managed to >>>> press the num lock (F6) key so that your keyboard is not sending >>>> the characters you expect. (Item 2 happened to Richie Gardenhire, >>>> and is a particular problem to be aware of if you press keys while >>>> VoiceOver is not running). >>>> >>>> If you switched hardware and software functions for the Function >>>> keys. I think you need to press FN+F6 to toggle the num lock. >>>> >>>> I'm sure there is no problem with your VoiceOver install. I think >>>> it is one of the two problems I mentioned above. Make sure you >>>> (now) use FN+F5 to put your MacBook at maximum speaker >>>> volume before you try anything else. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Esther >>>> >>>> >>>> On Dec 12, 2007, at 02:10PM, Simon Cavendish wrote: >>>>> Dear Esther, >>>>> >>>>> Tried it all to no avail. Before installing Leopard, I had changed >>>>> the >>>>> keyboard setting to desktop to avoid having to press the FN key all >>>>> the >>>>> time, and that setting seems to have been kept by leopard. I know >>>>> that >>>>> because when I press FN with the functions keys, I hear various >>>>> funny noises >>>>> which I recgonise as changing volume or brightness. I've tried >>>>> hitting the >>>>> f6 key but I don't know now whether it's on or off. I've tried >>>>> various >>>>> combinations and VO is still silent. Does it sound serious to you? >>>>> >>>>> Simon >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Esther" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac >>>>> OS X by >>>>> theblind" <[email protected]> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 11:54 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: SOS: can't get mu VO to work after upgrading to Leopard >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Simon, >>>>>> >>>>>> Remember that on a Macbook you need to hold down the FN key as >>>>>> well as >>>>>> the Command and F5 keys to get VoiceOver to start up. You may >>>>>> also want >>>>>> to hold down the F5 key on the Macbook for a while before turning on >>>>>> VoiceOver, since I think it's the hardware Volume up key on the >>>>>> Macbook. >>>>>> (The top row should be Escape, F1, F2, F3, F4, F5. ) >>>>>> >>>>>> The other possible gotcha if your VoiceOver was not turned on >>>>>> before your >>>>>> friend left is that you hit the F6 (num lock) key on the keyboard >>>>>> instead >>>>>> of >>>>>> F5. If so, try to press F6 again to toggle num lock off, and >>>>>> issue your >>>>>> command >>>>>> of FN+Command+F5 to turn on VoiceOver. >>>>>> >>>>>> Hope this helps. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> >>>>>> Esther >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed December 12, 2007, at 01:42PM, Simon Cavendish wrote: >>>>>>> Dear All, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've just installed Leopard on my new Macbook. it turned out that >>>>>>> it came >>>>>>> with Tiger installed, and leopard on a CD. So I've just had it >>>>>>> installed >>>>>>> with sighted assistance, as I'm not that experienced in VO yet. >>>>>>> All went >>>>>>> smoothly and my friend has gone now. But when I tried to get my >>>>>>> VO to >>>>>>> start with the usual combination of keys Command+f5 so that i >>>>>>> could use my >>>>>>> Macbook, nothing happens. Does anyone know what might have >>>>>>> happened? This >>>>>>> command worked perfectly well in tiger. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> S O S from desperate simon! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > > > >
