What install path did you take?  If you upgraded unless you are hanging on 
some screen, you should have gotten vo to talk by now.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Simon Cavendish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS Xby 
theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 5:21 AM
Subject: Re: SOS: can't get mu VO to work after upgrading to Leopard


Dear Esther,

I hear no boing sound when pressing fn+f6. The only fundction keys that
produce a sound is f9 f10 and f11 without pressing the fn key and f11 will
produce a boing sound with or without pressing the fn key.

I've tried starting vo presentation by presssing control+option+shift f8 but
that hasn't started anything either. I've tried messing about with the
control+option+command left/right arrow and then arrow up but to no avail.

I still haven't been able to find anybody who could look at the screen for
me. A friend promised he might be able to call later on this afternoon if I
haven't resolved the issue. I'm sorry to be such a bore. I've been using
computers for over 10 years, and here I am feeling like a silly child. Bear
with me, guys.

Simon
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Esther" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by
theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:07 AM
Subject: Re: SOS: can't get mu VO to work after upgrading to Leopard


> Dear Simon,
>
> Let's assume that you have a working VoiceOver installation, and
> that your Function keys are turned on to use software function instead
> of hardware function.   If your volume is turned up (from pressing
> FN + F5) then when you press F6 you should hear a kind
> of "boing" sound (I think they call it "funk").  Press FN+F6 once.
> You should not hear any sounds at all.  Now try pressing Command
> and F5.  Does VoiceOver come on?  If not, press FN+F6 a second
> time and try Command + F5 again.
>
> The "funk" sound occurs whether or not you have VoiceOver running.
> Please believe that it is unlikely you could have done anything to
> the VoiceOver installation.  It's just a question of getting it properly
> started.  And nothing that you've done isn't something someone
> else hasn't already had problems with already.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Esther
>
> On Wednesday, December 12, 2007, at 02:31PM, "Richie Gardenhire"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>The one thing I learned from that experience, to try those steps
>>Esther outlined; Leopard has audible cues that will indicate when
>>VoiceOver is turned on, given all things have been tried.  Thanks
>>again, Esther.  Richie Gardenhire, Anchorage, Alaska.
>>On Dec 12, 2007, at 3:18 PM, Esther wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Simon,
>>>
>>> Is it possible that you pressed FN+num lock by mistake?  The most
>>> likely things are: (1) you don't have the volume up high enough to
>>> hear the VoiceOver voice  or (2) you accidentally managed to
>>> press the num lock (F6) key so that your keyboard is not  sending
>>> the characters you expect.  (Item 2 happened to Richie Gardenhire,
>>> and is a particular problem to be aware of if you press keys while
>>> VoiceOver is not running).
>>>
>>> If you switched hardware and software functions for the Function
>>> keys. I think you need to press FN+F6 to toggle the num lock.
>>>
>>> I'm sure there is no problem with your VoiceOver install.  I think
>>> it is one of the two problems I mentioned above. Make sure you
>>> (now) use FN+F5 to put your MacBook at maximum speaker
>>> volume before you try anything else.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Esther
>>>
>>>
>>> On Dec 12, 2007, at 02:10PM, Simon Cavendish wrote:
>>>> Dear Esther,
>>>>
>>>> Tried it all to no avail. Before installing Leopard, I had changed
>>>> the
>>>> keyboard setting to desktop to avoid having to press the FN key all
>>>> the
>>>> time, and that setting seems to have been kept by leopard. I know
>>>> that
>>>> because when I press FN with the functions keys, I hear various
>>>> funny noises
>>>> which I recgonise as changing volume or brightness. I've tried
>>>> hitting the
>>>> f6 key but I don't know now whether it's on or off. I've tried
>>>> various
>>>> combinations and VO is still silent. Does it sound serious to you?
>>>>
>>>> Simon
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Esther" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac
>>>> OS X by
>>>> theblind" <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 11:54 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: SOS: can't get mu VO to work after upgrading to Leopard
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Simon,
>>>>>
>>>>> Remember that on a Macbook you need to hold down the FN key as
>>>>> well as
>>>>> the Command and F5 keys to get VoiceOver to start up.  You may
>>>>> also want
>>>>> to hold down the F5 key on the Macbook for a while before turning on
>>>>> VoiceOver, since I think it's the hardware Volume up key on the
>>>>> Macbook.
>>>>> (The top row should be Escape, F1, F2, F3, F4, F5. )
>>>>>
>>>>> The other possible gotcha if your VoiceOver was not turned on
>>>>> before your
>>>>> friend left is  that you hit the F6 (num lock) key on the keyboard
>>>>> instead
>>>>> of
>>>>> F5.  If so, try to press F6 again to toggle num lock off, and
>>>>> issue  your
>>>>> command
>>>>> of FN+Command+F5 to turn on VoiceOver.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Esther
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed December 12, 2007, at 01:42PM, Simon Cavendish wrote:
>>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've just installed Leopard on my new Macbook. it turned out that
>>>>>> it came
>>>>>> with Tiger installed, and leopard on a CD. So I've just had it
>>>>>> installed
>>>>>> with sighted assistance, as I'm not that experienced in VO yet.
>>>>>> All went
>>>>>> smoothly and my friend has gone now. But when I tried to get my
>>>>>> VO to
>>>>>> start with the usual combination of keys Command+f5 so that i
>>>>>> could use my
>>>>>> Macbook, nothing happens. Does anyone know what might have
>>>>>> happened? This
>>>>>> command worked perfectly well in tiger.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> S O S from desperate simon!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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