I was actually being sarcastic. It doesn't work on Tiger for blind people and that has been out for 3 years, so I know durn well it doesn't work on Leopard. Seeing the rate of progression I would hope it isn't a matter of 16 years before it is Leopard compatible. I know you have had and is still using it for years using the Mac and Outspoken. The thing is that you are still using it now with outdated equipment and software that isn't in production. Did you get those facts or did they go over your head?
On Jan 9, 2008, at 12:11 PM, Slau wrote:

Shaun,

When you say things like, "Never the less I will wait 16 years for it to work on Leopard," you probably don't realize how disjointed and non-sensical that staement is on several levels. Pro Tools is not Leopard compatible yet, period. you can't even use it with Leopard if you're a sighted user so stop saying we can't even use it in Leopard -- nobody can. You will sound ignorant when saying that to a knowledgeable person. Further, it's not as if we blind users had nothing for 16 years. There's an example of ignorance for you. Are you forgetting the fact that, for many years, blind Mac users could use Pro Tools with outSPOKEN and were engaged in audio production that blind Windows users could only dream about? It might help you to get facts straight before you go spewing blanket statements.
Nice.


----- Original Message ----- From: "Shaun Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 8:41 PM
Subject: Re: ProTools: The path to accessibility


I am not bent on anything, actually I don't even use the software or have no interest in using it, but my son does. You fail to understand my point on my business ventures and financial welth. I built my foundation with the help of my parents saying a handicap is in your mind. Never the less I will wait 16 years for it to work on Leopard. My business is now in training blind people how to use technology. I offer a better product for less money. I would like to train them on Pro Tools but as it has been said many times before it can't be done in this decade. I guess if we handled it your way our grand children might be able to use it.
On Jan 8, 2008, at 8:20 PM, Slau wrote:

Shaun,

You seem to be bent on this question of whether we can or cannot use Pro Tools with Tiger. The answer is clearly no. Is there still any question in your mind? Hopefully not. Your experience with the maker jof XMJB is fantastic -- congratulations! thing is, working with an individual who is a tiny developer is not the same as working with a corporation. do you see the difference? Since money appears to be no object to you, what is your worry? hire a sighted assistant to operate a Pro Tools system for you. Clearly with your business savvy, you'll have no problem organizing that. You seem to also think that someone's trying to sell you on an old Mac and a defunct screen reader. Nobody here is trying to sell you on anything. Hey, while you're starting up some businesses, why not develop a completely accessible DAW from the ground up. You'd have a moral purpose and thousands of customers. What do you say?








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