Actually, Shaun, it'll only be a couple of months before it's Leopard
compatible. voiceOver compatibility is another issue.
Incidentally, I hope, for your sake, that when you communicate with
developers, you check your grammar. If you don't know what I'm talking
about, read your message below.
For your information, I'm not using any equipment that is out of date. You
don't know the first thing about what I use so, again, get facts straight
before you spew.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Shaun Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by
theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: ProTools: The path to accessibility
I was actually being sarcastic. It doesn't work on Tiger for blind people
and that has been out for 3 years, so I know durn well it doesn't work on
Leopard. Seeing the rate of progression I would hope it isn't a matter of
16 years before it is Leopard compatible. I know you have had and is still
using it for years using the Mac and Outspoken. The thing is that you are
still using it now with outdated equipment and software that isn't in
production. Did you get those facts or did they go over your head?
On Jan 9, 2008, at 12:11 PM, Slau wrote:
Shaun,
When you say things like, "Never the less I will wait 16 years for it to
work on Leopard," you probably don't realize how disjointed and
non-sensical that staement is on several levels. Pro Tools is not
Leopard compatible yet, period. you can't even use it with Leopard if
you're a sighted user so stop saying we can't even use it in Leopard --
nobody can. You will sound ignorant when saying that to a knowledgeable
person. Further, it's not as if we blind users had nothing for 16 years.
There's an example of ignorance for you. Are you forgetting the fact
that, for many years, blind Mac users could use Pro Tools with outSPOKEN
and were engaged in audio production that blind Windows users could only
dream about? It might help you to get facts straight before you go
spewing blanket statements.
Nice.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Shaun Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X
by theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 8:41 PM
Subject: Re: ProTools: The path to accessibility
I am not bent on anything, actually I don't even use the software or
have no interest in using it, but my son does. You fail to understand
my point on my business ventures and financial welth. I built my
foundation with the help of my parents saying a handicap is in your
mind. Never the less I will wait 16 years for it to work on Leopard.
My business is now in training blind people how to use technology. I
offer a better product for less money. I would like to train them on
Pro Tools but as it has been said many times before it can't be done
in this decade. I guess if we handled it your way our grand children
might be able to use it.
On Jan 8, 2008, at 8:20 PM, Slau wrote:
Shaun,
You seem to be bent on this question of whether we can or cannot use
Pro Tools with Tiger. The answer is clearly no. Is there still any
question in your mind? Hopefully not.
Your experience with the maker jof XMJB is fantastic --
congratulations! thing is, working with an individual who is a tiny
developer is not the same as working with a corporation. do you see
the difference?
Since money appears to be no object to you, what is your worry? hire
a sighted assistant to operate a Pro Tools system for you. Clearly
with your business savvy, you'll have no problem organizing that. You
seem to also think that someone's trying to sell you on an old Mac
and a defunct screen reader. Nobody here is trying to sell you on
anything. Hey, while you're starting up some businesses, why not
develop a completely accessible DAW from the ground up. You'd have a
moral purpose and thousands of customers. What do you say?
