SLIGHTLY AT A TANGENT BUT IS THERE A MANUAL DESCRIBING NAVIGATING WEBPAGES USING GROUP MODE OR DOM MODE? I'VE SO FAR BEEN USING GROUP MODE AND LEARNING TO NAVIGATE IN THIS WAY BUT IS THERE MORE I COULD LEARN ABOUT GROUP NAVIGATION OR DOM OR BOTH?

WITH BEST WISHES

SIMON
On 14 Apr 2008, at 17:15, Josh de Lioncourt wrote:

On 14 Apr, 2008, at 8:28 AM, David Poehlman wrote:
I understand how it works ad in principle, it is fine. I just find it much slower and more complex than dom nav. perhaps if more people understood dom nav, they'd use it instead becaust it's a lot less work.

I totally disagree. DOM mode with VO has all the same problems that it does with Window-Eyes or Jaws. I've used both modes. DOM navigation requires more navigation, gives a less accurate representation of the page, and requires far more arrowing around. I suspect if you did a survey, you'd likely find that most users are using DOM mode, not Grouped, because it is so much like what they've become accustomed to in Windows. I'm sure you understand the concept behind grouped navigation, but I don't think you fully understand the best ways of utilizing it to your advantage while browsing. Everyone will have a different opinion why they like one over the other, but as a matter of sheer practicality, it is very difficult to make an argument that DOM mode is more efficient than grouped.

I'd like to hear what others are using and why, and how many have actually learned to use Grouped mode in depth.


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