Hi Chris and Lewis, I think Lewis is probably the expert on this, and Tim Kilburn has already weighed in with his experience on running the lower end iMacs with memory restrictions, but Chris might want to take a read through the article at the Low End Mac site that appeared last December:
"Bringing G3 iMacs and Other G3 Macs Into the Tiger Age" http://lowendmac.com/macdan/md07/1207.html To summarize some of the article, one of the guys contributing to the article is doing IT work for a volunteer Mac program at a senior center, and has been using old G3 iMacs to introduce seniors to a decent online Mac experience. They document the limits of performance with the installed memory and suggest that adding a 256 MB CL2 RAM memory module (for a total of 320 MB in the iMac -- 64 MB in the small slot and 256 MB in the large slot) can make for a decent Tiger online experience -- if you first do a firmware upgrade (and they give links to the firmware upgrade sources for different G3 iMac and Mac models). The OS install of Tiger is tricky because the iMacs have a CD (not DVD) reader, and most Tiger distributions come on DVDs (although I think a few early list users requested Tiger CDs from Apple, and upgraded from earlier Power PC computers). These guys make the master disk by creating the installation on another Mac system that supports two drives, and making one bootable, stripping out extra localization files for non-English languages, and installing any specific software that is wanted. There are more practical details in the article about what they found works and what does not easily work with disk drives, additions, etc. Lew may be right that it is easier to start with a different model G3 processor, but this article might give you an idea of what you could do with the model you are getting. HTH Cheers, Esther On Apr 18, 2008, at 02:30AM, Lewis Brock wrote: >ideally what you need friend is the following > >G3 blue and white tower with 400mhz processor. this is an upgradeable >mac and can take most components including a CPU upgrade. or even >better a G4 450. these will take tiger but its recommended to get some >spare sticks of memory to upgrade it. also a larger hard drive. say >80gb disk. > >that way tiger will work happily and run voiceover. > >sadly outspoken is not easily available and for you to run OS 9.2.2 >effectively then you need the very last version of outspoken which is >9.2 so that you dont get a crash or anything. > >best thing is a tiger based system that way you can get things done >much better. use the net, do what you need to etc. > >lew > > >On 18 Apr 2008, at 10:41, Chris Gilland wrote: > >> OK guys. At this time, though I'd prefer some way to get Tiger on >> this old beat up piece a junk system everyone clames I am getting, >> it's just not apparently happenin, so, I'd like to make a plea and a >> request: If anyone has it, remember I do have dinwos based machines >> too. I also do have Nero on them. It it possible that someone >> could either make me an iso of an Outspoken 9 *demo* CD, notice it's >> not like I'm asking for the real whole product, I am only asking for >> the demo. All web sites from Google are turning up useless. >> According to what I read, I need no sighted help and need no prior >> speech to install it. So, if someone could please helop me out, >> you will make my morning as then I'd have something to play with >> today. It's not voice over, but I pretty well give up on this. One >> person and I conversed last night. I will not reveal his or her >> name, nor will I even say if they are on this list or not. I'll >> only say that according to them, if I can find certain hardware >> parts, like a Celeron processor, etc... Anyway, Remember folks: >> Money is an issue. I have absolutely no money. After my bills and >> rent and such, I literally am lucky to have $10 not 100, but 10 if >> even that left. I'm sorry upgrading this thing is simply not >> possible. I have what I have and if it isn't good enough, then >> well... it's either this, or nothing. I know it may be a whole CD >> like 3 or 400MB, but either send space or whatever, if you could >> upload it, I can even give you an ftp site you can put it on if >> needed. I know it's big, but it would help me tremendously, again, >> it's not v o, nor is it the full Outspoken, but, at least it would >> get me by until I could find something else. >> >> Thanks. >> >> Chris. >> >> >> > >Mr. Lewis Brock >Totally blind musician and composer of 21st century synth orchestral >music > >Phone: +44 07857 352828 >E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Skype: lewisjbrock > > >
