Hi Chris and Lewis,
I think Lewis is probably the expert on this, and Tim Kilburn has
already
weighed in with his experience on running the lower end iMacs with
memory restrictions, but Chris might want to take a read through the
article at the Low End Mac site that appeared last December:
"Bringing G3 iMacs and Other G3 Macs Into the Tiger Age"
http://lowendmac.com/macdan/md07/1207.html
To summarize some of the article, one of the guys contributing to the
article is doing IT work for a volunteer Mac program at a senior
center,
and has been using old G3 iMacs to introduce seniors to a decent
online Mac experience.
They document the limits of performance with the installed memory
and suggest that adding a 256 MB CL2 RAM memory module (for
a total of 320 MB in the iMac -- 64 MB in the small slot and 256 MB
in the large slot) can make for a decent Tiger online experience --
if
you first do a firmware upgrade (and they give links to the firmware
upgrade sources for different G3 iMac and Mac models).
The OS install of Tiger is tricky because the iMacs have a CD (not
DVD)
reader, and most Tiger distributions come on DVDs (although I think
a few early list users requested Tiger CDs from Apple, and upgraded
from earlier Power PC computers). These guys make the master disk
by creating the installation on another Mac system that supports two
drives, and making one bootable, stripping out extra localization
files
for non-English languages, and installing any specific software that
is wanted.
There are more practical details in the article about what they found
works and what does not easily work with disk drives, additions, etc.
Lew may be right that it is easier to start with a different model G3
processor, but this article might give you an idea of what you could
do with the model you are getting.
HTH
Cheers,
Esther
On Apr 18, 2008, at 02:30AM, Lewis Brock wrote:
ideally what you need friend is the following
G3 blue and white tower with 400mhz processor. this is an
upgradeable
mac and can take most components including a CPU upgrade. or even
better a G4 450. these will take tiger but its recommended to get
some
spare sticks of memory to upgrade it. also a larger hard drive. say
80gb disk.
that way tiger will work happily and run voiceover.
sadly outspoken is not easily available and for you to run OS 9.2.2
effectively then you need the very last version of outspoken which
is
9.2 so that you dont get a crash or anything.
best thing is a tiger based system that way you can get things done
much better. use the net, do what you need to etc.
lew
On 18 Apr 2008, at 10:41, Chris Gilland wrote:
OK guys. At this time, though I'd prefer some way to get Tiger on
this old beat up piece a junk system everyone clames I am getting,
it's just not apparently happenin, so, I'd like to make a plea
and a
request: If anyone has it, remember I do have dinwos based
machines
too. I also do have Nero on them. It it possible that someone
could either make me an iso of an Outspoken 9 *demo* CD, notice
it's
not like I'm asking for the real whole product, I am only asking
for
the demo. All web sites from Google are turning up useless.
According to what I read, I need no sighted help and need no prior
speech to install it. So, if someone could please helop me out,
you will make my morning as then I'd have something to play with
today. It's not voice over, but I pretty well give up on this.
One
person and I conversed last night. I will not reveal his or her
name, nor will I even say if they are on this list or not. I'll
only say that according to them, if I can find certain hardware
parts, like a Celeron processor, etc... Anyway, Remember folks:
Money is an issue. I have absolutely no money. After my bills and
rent and such, I literally am lucky to have $10 not 100, but 10 if
even that left. I'm sorry upgrading this thing is simply not
possible. I have what I have and if it isn't good enough, then
well... it's either this, or nothing. I know it may be a whole CD
like 3 or 400MB, but either send space or whatever, if you could
upload it, I can even give you an ftp site you can put it on if
needed. I know it's big, but it would help me tremendously, again,
it's not v o, nor is it the full Outspoken, but, at least it would
get me by until I could find something else.
Thanks.
Chris.
Mr. Lewis Brock
Totally blind musician and composer of 21st century synth orchestral
music
Phone: +44 07857 352828
E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Skype: lewisjbrock
