Shane, I could not agree with you more if I tried. On that note, if there
are any out spoken users on here would they please write me off list? I
have a couple ideas regarding this Mac but wish to get all of you all's
opinions.
Chris.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Shane Jackson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by
theblind" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 3:46 AM
Subject: Re: Lewis/Outspoken
Goodness gracious! I've been on many lists, and I've seen many people
get slammed, bashed, and threatened. Never have I seen such ferocity
against one fellow as that which has been thrown at my very fine friend,
Lewis Brock. I'm not going to go into a long email about how great Lewis
is. He is a very decent and up-standing fellow, and he knows the rest.
I respect his experience, and he respects mine. We have become excellent
friends, and I will vouch for the truth behind all that he says. I've
talked to him many times in private, and I've seen his experience in
action, and I've heard all the good that is in the old boy. It's late
here in the U S of A, and I'm tired. However, I couldn't let my good old
pal get blasted without saying something in a little short note. God
bless you Lewis, and God bless the other fine people on this list. Let's
get back to the Mac, as that is absolutely what this list is for, as
Justin points out in his email. Thank you all for reading this one.
On Apr 19, 2008, at 12:28 AM, Justin Harford wrote:
Perhaps this is the post that people were unsure of.
It is much worse than someone being reprimanded for asking a stupid
question. I've been on lists that were worse in that respect than here,
but I've never seen such poor judgement as this message here.
I'd just like to point out that this is a list designed for discussions
on the mac platform, not blindness politics and philosophy. If you want
to talk about that go join an NFB or ACB list. It certainly is not a
list to discuss or call into question, the quality of people's
character.
Regards
Justin Harford
Into this wild abyss, the weary fiend stood on the brink of hell and
looked awhile, pondering his voyage
John Milton
Paradise Lost
On Apr 18, 2008, at 12:40 PM, Matt Emson wrote:
On 18 Apr 2008, at 17:27, Slau wrote:
Hey Lew, was that the same Mac you were just posting for sale?
Please note: i joined this list because I fully expected this to
happen. I'm not interested in a Witch hunt; make your own minds up. But
this is the kind of message Lewis is spreading around the internet. I
feel this is actually *hurting* blind Mac users, both in standing
within the Mac community and credibility when requesting assistance
from sighted Mac users.
It takes little effort to find more such posts: Google for "Lewis Brock
Totally blind" or "Lewis Brock mac urgent". I spent less than 30
minutes earlier in the week, and found 3 other places (Gumtree,
MacRumours forums and another I forget off the top of my head) where
Lewis made these claims. Others on the LEM list have uncovered more,
including one where he claims he needs a Uilleann pipes set for free.
At the end of the day, it's not my place to judge him. I'd simply ask
that you take notice of what I'm saying and decide for yourselves if
his blatant abuse of his disability is something you want or need to
have associated with your group.
To Lewis: your disability is terrible. I feel for you. But using it as
an excuse to lie and cheat yourself in to gaining hardware - this is
just wrong. I'm not interested in hounding you, but I'm also not
willing to sit back and let you make the LEM lists seem like a bunch of
evil people. We were willing to help, you messed up. You lied. End of
story.
I will not add more to this, but I am willing to answer any queries -
email me directly if you need clarification. If you want to speak to
others, see this list: http://groups.google.com/group/mac-uk? hl=en -
you'll also find Lewis' posts there, and the investigation that various
members made in to his other dealings on the net.
Here are a few more links, though some may be gone now as Lewis has
seemingly deleted some content since we caught him out on the 14th.
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=470666&highlight=blind
http://www.digitalartsonline.co.uk/forums/msgs.cfm?msg=6424&forum=2&tz=-60
http://www.uilleannforum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=4949&sid=e83b8127743f793211e249115be4a7bb
Shane Jackson
Vestavia Hills, Alabama, USA.
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Skype ID: cadal728
