Actually, this needs to be handled at least partially at a lower level than vo since for instance, time announcement comes from the os.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Blouch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac OS X by theblind" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 1:38 PM Subject: Re: time announcements and the Mac os: Similar issues are being wrestled with in the web world as part of a new standard being worked out called ARIA or Accessible Rich Internet Applications. Part of ARIA deals with something called a Live Region which is part of a page that updates every so often (like a clock, log, stock ticker etc). Part of setting up a live region is to define a priority level which can be rude, assertive, polite or off. This gives AT a hint for resolving multiple concurrent spoken messages. I suspect VO needs something similar so the user can determine what is most important. There are times you might want the clock to be rude so you don't miss an appointment, but other times polite so you can read your document in peace. You can read more about ARIA liveRegions here: http://www.w3.org/TR/wai-aria-practices/#LiveRegions The concepts I think are general enough to apply other places. Like choice of output channel for different messages, what kinds of changes should be announced and how much context is required for the update. CB Richie Gardenhire wrote: > I have been assured by Apple that the suggestions I've sent to them > will be taken into consideration in future releases. So we will have > to keep our pulses to Apple's website and monitor future bug fixes. > It does this at random and all I suggested was that a warning or an > alert be used asan option, to either be turned on or off, to interrupt > speech long enough for the time to be announced, and once announced, > the reading will be resumed, with very little user input.Again, this > option can be turned on or off; in other words, you don't have to use > it, if one feels he/she doesn't need it. Richie Gardenhire, > Anchorage, Alaska. > > > On Aug 9, 2008, at 4:17 PM, Scott Howell wrote: > >> Actually what I've noticed is at times they can speak at the same >> time with neither interrupting the other. This is random so it is >> possible, but something is causing the speech processes to step on >> each other. And this is why I'll be pestering Apple again and again >> about this. >> >> On Aug 9, 2008, at 6:34 PM, Janet and Felix * wrote: >> >>> >>> Well that's a bug that needs fixing. Yes, that's what happened. I >>> changed the voice to Victoria for the time announce. And then Alex >>> rudely cut her off before she could say all of 3:30. Victoria only >>> said 3 and was cut off by Alex. >>> >>> janet >>> >>> _________________________________ >>> i'm EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOOD >>> Join me >>> http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Home/?source=EML_WLHM_GreaterGood >>> >>> ---------------------------------------- >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: time announcements and the Mac os: >>>> Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 18:30:38 -0400 >>>> >>>> they interrupt each other. >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Janet and Felix *" >>>> To: "General discussions on all topics relating to the use of Mac >>>> OS X by >>>> theblind" >>>> Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 6:26 PM >>>> Subject: RE: time announcements and the Mac os: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Is that true also if you set a different voice for the time? I set >>>> Kathy >>>> for that function. So if Alex is talking, will Kathy just talk >>>> also at the >>>> same time? Or will Alex stop so Kathy can talk. Or if Alex is >>>> talking, >>>> will Kathy not be heard saying the time at all? >>>> >>>> I guess I'm going to find out in about 4 minutes! >>>> >>>> Thanks for this info, by the way. I never knew about it. handy >>>> little item >>>> to know. >>>> >>>> janet >>>> >>>> _________________________________ >>>> i'm EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOOD >>>> Join me >>>> http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Home/?source=EML_WLHM_GreaterGood >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------- >>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Subject: Re: time announcements and the Mac os: >>>>> Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 16:04:19 -0400 >>>>> >>>>> vo will interupt anything the system voice says when it speaks or, >>>>> the >>>>> system voice will interupt vo sometimes. >>>>> >>>>> On Aug 9, 2008, at 3:58 PM, Cara Quinn wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> What do you mean if you're lucky enough to have a friend who does >>>>>> not use VO? I can set these options with VO active. >>>>>> >>>>>> -Or are you saying that VO will interrupt the time when it's >>>>>> spoken?… >>>>>> >>>>>> Smiles, >>>>>> >>>>>> Cara :) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Aug 9, 2008, at 3:38 AM, David Poehlman wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> If you are lucky enough to have a friend who does not use voice >>>>>>> over or if >>>>>>> you don't use voiceover, you can have mac os announce the time by >>>>>>> setting >>>>>>> this in date and time in system prefs. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Enjoy! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> --- >>>>>> View my Online Portfolio at: >>>>>> http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> Scott Howell >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> >
