Ralph Aichinger wrote:
_Change #1_

So, v2 caters to the Mary's of the world instead of catering to both users like v1.1.x does. Why? To me, this is *embarrassing* that this >
is being changed based on this scenario.

This is issue #39486 if you want to comment or vote for it.

While I personally would prefer the previous behaviour by a large margin (I think that the change is motivated by a misguided sense of "neatness"), I am very glad that there is one preference less. Good riddance.

OpenOffice has about 500 preferences last time I counted them very
roughly.  *Anything* that reduces preferences is a good thing.

I disagree. Reducing preference may or may not be good, I don't know. But any statement like "anything reduces preference is a good thing," is not a good attitude. We could just eliminate all preferences, and I think we would agree that that is not good. We need to asses prefs one at a time.


For instance, I like that you file issues for prefs you think are dumb. That is a good approach.

The current preferences dialog is just not comprehensible for the
average user. Even experienced users frequently overlook stuff
after using the program for years, because this thing is too
bloated, with useless preferences for completely nonsensical stuff

As someone else said, the answer is not less features, but better ui. Perhaps the suggestion of GNOME type setup is the answer.


_Change #3_
We also can't display the file name in the Title Bar anymore. Now we have to use the file name only. No choice like there kind of was before. Why is this? Because users might get confused.


But that is a very good reason! OpenOffice should meet the user's expectation, not the other way round. Most users never set or use the
document title, and therefore the filename is a very sane choice for the window title. While it might not be as "nice" as the document
title, it will certainly be more helpful in finding the document again
at a later time, after they have stored it away somewhere.

My expectation is that I will see a file title in the *Title* bar. If I am not going to see, why even have the option to set. I have always hated this at MS Word, I loved it about OOo and now it is going away. This would be such an *EASY* option to set that I don't understand.


If title box is checked, show title, else show file name.

I guess now I have to read an ugly confusing file name with an extension because some mythical user will be confused by an easy to read title.


So don't use extensions! There is no law forcing you to use extensions,
and last time I checked OpenOffice opened files without extensions just fine.

How will the computer know it is an OOo file. Especially since I can't launch OOo from my task bar anymore, I will have to dig through the start menu to find OOo and then I could open the file.


Even if I think that some of the changes in the 2.0 version are
not for the better, but for the worse (I do think your example 1 is a change for the worse) I am very glad, that *any* usability
work in OpenOffice slowly starts.


Certiainly there is a huge room for improvement, but please do
give people some time. Making OpenOffice more comprehensible to
users is a gigantic task, and it won't show final results within
a short timeframe -- but within a few iterations stuff *will* fall
into place.

If I start now, hopefully something will happen! :)

--
Peter Kupfer
OOo user since 'OO4
http://peschtra.tripod.com/open_office/ooo_front.htm


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