On Sun, Jul 24, 2005 11:15:21 AM -0500, Peter Kupfer OOo
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> 
> Thank you for finally posting the proposed solution. I realize you
> posted it 15 months ago, but the archives are down. You would think
> we could have saved a lot of time if you just would have done this
> at the start.

I didn't because I didn't find it myself in my own archives, and
because I had to try several times to re-explain (not to you) the
basics needed to understand it.

Glad that we seem to be finally talking of something productive! Now,
wrt your comments:

> 
> Reasons:
> 
> 1) I am not running a mail a server and do not plan on being obligated 
> to leave my computer on 24 hours a day.

Nothing to object, same situation as me. That's why I mentioned it
must be somebody who, for his own reasons, *already* runs a 24/7 linux
box this way. It is impossible that, with all OO.o lists around, there
isn't at least one person doing this. The problem is that no effort at
all is made to find who this person is. Something like this should be
asked in the front page.

> So, I guess until someone with Linux volunteers to do this, this
> conversation is mute.

Unfortunately yes, but it is the very reason why it makes sense to
keep asking periodically.

> Another problem with you solution (I think although there may be
> something in the e-mail header I don't know about) is that when an
> unsubscribed user sends a message with no subject, it gets the
> subject moderated and we end up with 10 - 15 messages a day some
> time with taht subject. Would procmail handle that well?

I *think* it would, because one should be able to match the sender
address and message-id headers. Since you asked, however, my
suggestion would be to:

NEVER let any message without subject pass

set up procmail again so it tells that user "sorry, sir, unless you
clearly explain even in the subject what your problem is about, our
system can't forward it to the proper person/list".

It is in the OP interest. Messages without subject are the most
frequently deleted without reading. Even on properly run lists, I will
never waste time opening 10/15 *more* messages on the faint hope that
they *might* be about something I can help with, or want to
learn. Ditto when you find them in the archives. If *you* need help,
the first thing *you* should do to find it is to state clearly what
your problem is, so the right people will hear you. So I always delete
lists messages with blank subjects for this reason, and know lots of
people who do the same. From real gurus to the geniuses who flamed me
yesterday because "we just delete all uninteresting messages, how
smarter can you get?"

Sorry for this extra rant. Let's focus on the original problem for
now. Yes, probably procmail would help even in this case.

Ciao,
        Marco

-- 
Marco Fioretti                    mfioretti, at the server mclink.it
Fedora Core 3 for low memory      http://www.rule-project.org/

I love humanity, it's people I can't stand     Linus Van Pelt, Peanuts

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