I'm a bit confused now.  Yesterday's call for proposals seemed to be a
request for some sponsor to come forward to take care of managing
Hamakor's server.  Now, the discussion seems to be about getting services
provided by a sponsor. 

Wikis, forums and the like, tend to not need the sysadmin's attention
beyond the initial install, or upgrade (or other application upgrade
(Apache/MySQL/etc) which manages to break the Wiki)

So what exactly are we looking for now?

E L wrote:
>
>
> On 9/13/06, *Shachar Shemesh* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>
>     Alon Altman wrote:
>
>     >
>     > On Wed, 13 Sep 2006, E L wrote:
>     >
>     >> Great idea!:)
>     >> I think that while we at it we should look for someone who will be
>     >> willing
>     >> to give a bit more flexible hosting in example:
>     >>
>     >> 1) Giving email address for a web mail for all yedidei hamakor to
>     >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>     >
>     >   @ hamakor.org.il <http://hamakor.org.il> mail was discussed
>     and rejected, in order to
>     > diffrentiate
>     > between official representatives and just friends.
>     Not true. It was rejected because maintaining it is an administrative
>     nightmare. If and when we have a better friends/members tracking
>     program, we can integrate the mail server and the members database
>     (Lingnu has done such things before). Until such time, this is
>     just too
>     much work.
>
>
> Forwarding address is  good enough,  letting people use hamakor
> addresses will provide great publicity for hamakor.
> The more it is seen the better, I think it's worth putting some effort
> into it.
> People should feel belong to hamakor they should feel they get added
> value by being members.
>
>     In any case, such a system will not allow for local storage of mail,
>     only a forwarding address. Reason being that the space is better used
>     for mirrors.
>
>
> Ok, I guess I should have wrote those lines here:)
>
>     >> 2) Hosting a wiki for various hamakor activities (now due to
>     lack of
>     >> hosting
>     >> in happens on many other sites)
>     >> 3) Hosting Free software forums
>     I'm in favor of at least the forums. I'm not sure I want a wiki, and
>     not, say, just a CMS. The pros and cons are worth thinking about.
>     >> The first 2 will be a great the 3rd will be nice:)
>     לאור מלחמות השפות על רשימת התפוצה הזו, אני חושב שוויקי הוא פחות חשוב
>     מאשר פורום.
>
>
> Could be that you are right, anyhow I think we should try to get
> hosting that has the possibilty for things like that
> should they be needed in the future.
> And should you decide to go forward with your electronic voting
> suggestion;)
>
>
>     שחר
>
>
>
> Ely 

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