שלום לנוכחים, אני בטוח שמישהו שמתחזק את האתר של ה־PHP וה־XHTML הסטטיים ישמח לבנות מערכת פשוטה לעריכת התכנים. נכון שלומי? :) לא בדקתי את התוכנה שאלעד הציע אבל זה נשמע מגניב.
אמיר On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Ira Abramov <[email protected]>wrote: > אני חושב שמישהו צודק. > > On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Lior Kaplan <[email protected]> wrote: > >> אני שמח לראות שאתה שומר על המסורת של לקרוא לי "מישהו". >> >> המטרה במעבר לוורדפרס היא לא טכנית אלה ניהולית - אני רוצה >> לאפשר לאנשים שלא מכירים קוד (ולא צריכים להכיר) לעזור בתחזוקת >> האתר. ממש לא בא לי להתעסק עם המרה של נתונים למבנה XMLי >> כדי שיתאים לתבנית שהאתר דורש. >> >> במקום ש-linux.org.il יכיל את המידע הכי עדכני יש לנו אתר שלא ממש >> עומד בדרישה של להוות שער לקהילה ולעסקים בארץ. >> >> ולא ממש איכפת לי אם יקח לעוד עוד שניה לעלות, העיקר שהמידע שיוצג >> יהיה רלוונטי. >> >> קפלן >> >> On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Shlomi Fish <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> recently someone requested me to implement something on >>> http://www.linux.org.il/ and after I was distracted and explained the >>> fact that >>> it is a custom PHP site that parses XML at run-time and converts it to >>> HTML, >>> and that there is no apparent need why it should be a dynamic site, he >>> said he >>> thinks he'll just install WordPress there and allow people to edit the >>> site. >>> >>> I think it's a bad idea. As opposed to WordPress and similar CMSes, >>> static XHTML >>> sites that are generated from templates have the following advantages: >>> >>> 1. They are more secure. WordPress had a very bad track record of >>> security >>> vulnerabilities in the past, and other PHP (see >>> http://www.shlomifish.org/open-source/anti/php/ ) and MySQL (see >>> http://www.shlomifish.org/open-source/anti/mysql/ )-based content >>> management systems are usually prone to other problems like that. >>> Please don't focus exclusively on this point. >>> >>> 2. They are much more reliable than a dynamic site. A static XHTML site >>> is >>> generated from templates which is maintained in a version control system >>> (nowadays it can be a distributed one, where every copy has the entire >>> history), and can be built and reuploaded at any time. The PHP and MySQL >>> CMSes >>> tend to get offline (often permanently - see the links I gave) due to >>> many >>> problems, and then restoring them is incredibly painful. Some MediaWiki >>> site >>> that are now offline are: >>> >>> * http://perl.net.au/ >>> >>> * http://wiki.perl.org.il/ >>> >>> * http://wiki.osdc.org.il/ >>> >>> * http://www.iglu.org.il/wiki/ >>> >>> 3. They can be made more structured than a CMS that just gives you a big >>> HTML >>> editing textarea, where you often have to duplicate markup, or in the >>> case of >>> MediaWiki, something much more vile and unstructured. >>> >>> 4. They are faster to load and consume less resources than a >>> server-side-scripted CMS. >>> >>> -------------------- >>> >>> Naturally, dynamic CMSes have some advantages such as the ability to add >>> user-generated content, and they might be more friendly to laymen, but >>> this is >>> not relevant to http://www.linux.org.il/ which is a static portal. >>> >>> If you're looking for a solution that combines some of the best of both >>> worlds >>> look at ikiwiki : http://ikiwiki.info/ ; >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ikiwiki . >>> This is a wiki engine that stores its pages as files in a distributed >>> version >>> control system. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Shlomi Fish >>> >>> -- >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ >>> What does "Zionism" mean? - http://shlom.in/def-zionism >>> >>> No one calls Xena the warrior princess “Zeena” to her face and survives. >>> Luckily for you, she hasn’t visited the modern day United States yet. >>> >>> Please reply to list if it's a mailing list post - http://shlom.in/reply. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Discussions mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discussions >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Discussions mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discussions >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Discussions mailing list > [email protected] > http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discussions >
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