Russ, I think the suggestion was merely to change the display name of the group. I don't see any downsides to trying something like "Django developers (core development)".
On Friday, September 5, 2014 1:45:58 PM UTC-4, Russell Keith-Magee wrote: > > > Hi Robert, > > Thanks for the suggestion. > > You're not the first to make the suggestion - the same suggestion has been > made many times in the past. You can search the archives if you want to see > those discussions. > > There are a number of problems with this proposal: > > 1) History. There are 10 years of archives and blog links that reference > existing discussions. If we rename the group, all those links break. That > would be a huge loss to the community. > > 2) More importantly, you can't solve a social problem with technology. At > the end of the day, it's a name. It doesn't matter which name you pick - > *someone* is going to interpret it incorrectly. To pick some of the > suggestions that have been made: > > * "Django Masters" and "Django Private" both imply that newcomers aren't > welcome to join and make suggestions, which is a social signal we don't > want to send. > * "Django Core" could be interpreted to mean that it's only for the core > team - and, by the by, there *is* a "django-core" list for private core > team discussions (there aren't many of these, but it sometimes necessary > for security sensitive issues, etc) > * "Django debate" doesn't make it clear who is discussing what. > > Yes, I agree that the "you should be posting to Django-users" message > isn't ideal, and some of the responses that are given don't have the best > tone. If your first message to a Django group gets a response that sounds > like "go away", that's not a good look for the community. > > However, I *guarantee* that renaming the list won't make this problem go > away. > > Yours, > Russ Magee %-) > > On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 12:58 AM, Robert Grant <robert...@gmail.com > <javascript:>> wrote: > >> I am one of the happy few who read the line about what this group is for >> before I started posting. >> >> However, that line, and the endless supply of people who think this is >> for Django developers (see also: Java developers are generally considered >> to be people* who develop in Java, not who develop Java), might be symptoms >> of the fact that this group has a funny name for something that is both >> *developed* and *developed in*. >> >> Can we rename it >> <https://sites.google.com/a/griffith.edu.au/staff-email-learning-centre/help-yourself/google-groups/renaming-a-google-group>? >> >> :) Some semi-serious suggestions (because I can't think of an obvious >> alternative) : >> >> Django Masters >> Django Private >> Django Debate >> Django Internals >> Aymeric And Friends >> >> >> >> >> >> * Yes, they're still people. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Django developers" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to django-develop...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. >> To post to this group, send email to django-d...@googlegroups.com >> <javascript:>. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/fd27a285-be01-417f-ab4b-4026d7221239%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/fd27a285-be01-417f-ab4b-4026d7221239%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to django-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to django-developers@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/7f4671f4-0698-438f-a842-75fef87be0da%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
