On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 1:51 PM, Dave Crocker <[email protected]> wrote:

>> We spoke a lot of on how mailing lists and DMARC/ADSP are not
>> compatible. People are suggesting many options, but so far no one is
>> tackling the first problem which is to have running code.
>>
>> So on my spare time, I started to hack.
>>
>> I don't know if mailing lists administrators would adopt such
>> modifications or not. But now they can and it is simple.

> Is there a simple description of the design for this proposal, other than
> the code?  Debating design is best done with design documents, not code.
> The code is good for demonstrating feasibility, but not concepts.

I'm not sure that's an appropriate response. It comes off as an
insult, a complaint that he didn't share this exactly the way you
wanted it shared.

> What DMARC constructs are changed and/or what mailing list behaviors are
> changed?

You should subscribe to the test list and see. It's pretty
interesting, and it kinda fits with what I was thinking.

I have been meaning to also set up a test Google Group and Yahoo Group
to see how they handle headers and the concepts of authentication and
who the sender is and how the sender is identified. My personal
experience with both is a bit out of date.

I strongly urge anybody else who has an opinion about what should or
shouldn't be done by mailing lists in this modern age do the same.
They're the elephants in the room that we've been ignoring --
Google/Yahoo Groups are probably the two most widely used discussion
list tools out in the wild today. How they work within the framework
of DMARC may matter, and they may provide useful templates for things
to consider (or discount) based on how they handle things today.

Regards,
Al Iverson
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