Try the test list at http://lists.peachymango.org/mailman/listinfo/mlm-auth and 
then we talk...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Atkins" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, July 4, 2012 11:18:23 AM
Subject: Re: [dmarc-discuss] Mailing lists support for DMARC


On a typical mailing list I will want to reply to either the list or the person 
who wrote the particular mail (by which I mean the email address at which the 
person chooses to receive email). Or both. And ideally, I want to be able to do 
so in a way that is not dependent on the details of which mailing list I'm 
replying to.

I also want to be able to search for mail by a particular person, regardless of 
whether it was private email or via a mailing list. 

I also want different people to appear as different people, even if they're 
sending mail to me via the same mailing list. My current mail client, for 
instance, identifies people via their email address, and will add their name in 
a comment (e.g. will convert '[email protected]' to '"Franck Martin" 
<[email protected]>') based on the friendly from seen in previous mail 
from that email address.

If the mailing list rewrites all From: addresses to "Persons Name" 
<[email protected]>, and the first email I see from the list is from 
"Franck Martin" <[email protected]> then if I try and send new mail to 
just [email protected] my mail client will rewrite that to 'To: "Franck 
Martin" <[email protected]>'. That'd be an unexpected behaviour, and 
confusing. If the first email I see from the list is 'From: 
"[email protected]" <[email protected]>" instead something 
differently confusing is likely to happen.

The default setting on Mail.app is to "Use Smart Addresses". That means that in 
the case of email addresses where there's a "friendly from" only that will be 
displayed, not the actual email address. Whether that's a good idea or not is 
an interesting question, but it's pretty common MUA behaviour. If both 
[email protected] and [email protected] are rendered identically 
(as "Franck Martin") then that's just asking for user confusion.


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