----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave Crocker" <[email protected]>
> To: "Franck Martin" <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2012 8:39:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [dmarc-discuss] Mailing lists support for DMARC
>
>
> On 7/3/2012 6:57 PM, Franck Martin wrote:
> > To answer a few questions
> >
> > Not planning to change any standard, just proposing to adapt a well
> > know MLM to the current authentication standard
>
> In fact, your code makes some significant assumptions about what is
> acceptable behavior by mailing lists.
>
> As I said, this sort of thing is best discussed in terms of its
> concepts, distinct form its code.
That's not agile
>
>
> > The code is self explanatory but for the people with difficulties
> > with launchpad:
> >
> > if mlist.author_list:
> > mlist.include_sender_header = 0
> > if msg['reply-to'] == "" :
> > msg['reply-to'] = msg['reply-to'] + " , " +
> > msg['from']
>
> Although a logical choice, this seems questionable in practice to me.
>
> 1. Messing with Reply-To has always been problematic and there are no
> fully accepted practices. I believe it remains controversial, with
> no
> widespread 'rough consensus', in spite of various widespread
> practices.
self contradictory statement
>
> 2. Since the field normally contains only one address, I'd expect
> some
> deployed software to break on multiple addresses. No, it shouldn't
> do
> that, but it shouldn't do it on From: either and some do.
>
Works with gmail, yahoo, outlook, zimbra,... Guess we are covered here
>
> > else:
> > msg['reply-to'] = msg['from']
>
> Ultimately the proposal appears to be to
> \
>
> > realname, email = parseaddr(msg['from'])
> > del msg['from']
> > msg['From'] = formataddr(('%s via %s' %
> > (realname,mlist.real_name), mlist.GetListEmail()))
>
> I don't know this level of mailman, so I can't tell exactly what the
> final From: string will look like. It's not obvious to me that it
> will
> be a valid address.
Several systems use this format, ones that come to mind, Jira, RT,...
>
> Worse, I really can't tell what the goal is here. Is it to have a
> signature by the mailing list be made valid for DMARC, at the expense
> of
> violating the From: field?
>
Not trying to solve a theoretical problem but a practical one
>
> d/
>
> ps. it occurred to me that i don't know what 'test' mailing list was
> being referred to earlier.
>
in true ietf fashion I would say: read the archives :P
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