I realize this probably won't come as a surprise to anyone, but substantial
portions of this very discussion landed in my spam folder at GMail, for no
reason other than DMARC failure AFAICT. ("*Be careful with this
message.*Our systems couldn't verify that this message was really sent
by
<FromDomain>. You might want to avoid clicking links or replying with
personal information.")On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Josh Aberant <[email protected]> wrote: > Indeed, a lot of the discussion on this thread and the many other threads > on DMARC and MLMs over the past year have often seemed to be based the > assumption that email is working today and DMARC breaks it. Yet, in many > way email is not working today and hasn't been for some time. Today email > is the number one vector for initiating cyber-crime - this is very broken > situation. > > While everyone wants to spew vile at Yahoo in many ways they made a simple > sensible decision. They knew full well what their reject policy would break > mailing lists but decided to value their users' safety above that. > > Josh > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 9:30 AM, Al Iverson <[email protected]>wrote: > >> On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 11:15 AM, John Levine <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>You have perhaps pointed to a fairly elegant way for MLMs to deal with >> >>p=reject: ... >> > >> >> * Just hitting reply no longer works of course, ... >> > >> > By breaking perfectly reasonable and useful features for everyone. >> > Please stop. >> >> Please continue! Trying new things is a first step in evolution of a >> process. Sometimes they work out, sometimes they don't. You and we >> tend to learn from the experience regardless. Occasionally naysayers >> will respond and explain patiently and repeatedly that for the past 35 >> years, email and lists have worked exactly a certain way and that this >> means they should not change. Don't listen to them; "because 1970s" >> isn't a valid reason to stand still. >> >> All the things I've tried at random and shared with the community -- >> DNSBLs, RHSBLs, sample COI code, web tools, etc., have always had at >> least one person say "You should stop immediately because you don't >> know what you're doing." Even though they were sometimes right, I'm >> glad that I never listened to them. >> >> Cheers, >> Al Iverson >> _______________________________________________ >> dmarc-discuss mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://www.dmarc.org/mailman/listinfo/dmarc-discuss >> >> NOTE: Participating in this list means you agree to the DMARC Note Well >> terms (http://www.dmarc.org/note_well.html) >> > > > _______________________________________________ > dmarc-discuss mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.dmarc.org/mailman/listinfo/dmarc-discuss > > NOTE: Participating in this list means you agree to the DMARC Note Well > terms (http://www.dmarc.org/note_well.html) > >
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