On Friday, August 01, 2014 10:46:08 Anders Wegge Keller via dmarc-discuss 
wrote:
> On Fri, 01 Aug 2014 03:27:42 -0400
> 
> Scott Kitterman via dmarc-discuss <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Friday, August 01, 2014 08:09:53 Anders Wegge Keller via dmarc-discuss
> > 
> > wrote:
> >> On Thu, 31 Jul 2014 22:31:36 +0000
> >> 
> >>  As soon as there is a Sender field in the header, it's the SPF and/or
> >> 
> >> DKIM records for the domain in that header, that's used for
> >> verification. So in this case you need to work with the forwarder, and
> >> make them stop their practice.
> > 
> > No.  DMARC always keys off From.  Not Sender.
> 
>  In that case, gmail (Which is the case mentioned by the OP) must divert
> from that. I have experimentally found that adding a Sender, and
> DKIM-signing with the senders domain, will lead to acceptance of the mail,
> even when from is @gmail.com:
> 
>    Authentication-Results: mx.google.com;
>        spf=pass (google.com: domain of [email protected] designates \
> 5.9.72.151 as permitted sender) [email protected];
>        dkim=pass [email protected]
> 
>  Also, I fail to see how mailing lists could work otherwise, as they
> routinely change several of the signed header fields.

They don't.  That's one of the major reasons why the IETF is considering 
kicking off a new DMARC related working group.

Scott K
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