On Friday, June 6, 2014 7:33 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull <[email protected]> wrote:
> DMARC is designed for business entities big enough to be willing > to maintain MTAs to do the signing for them, or pay for somebody > trustworthy to maintain such an MTA for them. You aren't willing, > so your use case is different. be free 2 enlighten me with a link to DMARC draft section saying exactly that, cause i can't find it. also, u r here directly contradicting bunch of other DMARC developers who stated exactly the opposite numerous times. ASAIK internet standards r standards for all, not wealthy and mighty. maybe i'm living in a dream world. > I'm not sure what you mean by 3rd party support in SPF and DKIM. SPF: u can put 3rd party servers in ur domain's SPF records that send email on ur behalf. DKIM: TPA, and other proposed standards similar to it. search for it. > Can you put a third party mailbox in From: with SPF? Sure. *And nobody > trusts it, and nobody should.* if u r so nice to make an example for this, cause i sure can't figure out how would anything like this work. > Anybody with an account at Yahoo! can put your mailbox at your domain > in From:, and it will pass SPF authentication as Yahoo!. Ditto DKIM. no they can't. only owners of a domain address can do such a thing, since every 3rd party domain email address gets validated 1st. so, ur point, invalid. be free to try ur example urself. > Yahoo!'s use of "p=reject" causes you pain? Tell Yahoo! about it. > Or switch to GMail. i don't rly care about yahoo's "p=reject". it just shows how DMARC is broken as it is, but it doesn't affect me much. nor do i care to use gmail, or trust it. >> actually, AFAICS, we have three complete solutions for 3rd party >> support > What are they? AFAICS, there are none, but I'm willing to be > educated. i'm not a search engine. but it seems u r not following this mailing list. > A shame, but "there ain't no such thing as a free lunch." sure there is. it even has a name - FOSS. it's also called open standards. it's also called free books. and let's not forget all those free kitchen for homeless. why am i even commenting on this...? -- Vlatko Salaj aka goodone http://goodone.tk _______________________________________________ dmarc mailing list [email protected] https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dmarc
