Vlatko

I suggest you remove the vitriol from your responses. Stating the messages that 
Vic referred to are unimportant is just such an example. Those messages are 
ones that individuals have opted-in to receive and are important to them. They 
may also be required as a matter of business, be they transaction 
notifications, fraud alerts and the like. I'm sure that individuals receiving 
those messages are better served with the actions to protect the email domain 
that Vic had undertaken.

Like many others who have successfully deployed DMARC, they've done so with the 
intent of maintaining the viability and integrity of the channel for their 
constituents.

My understanding (and general experience) is that this list is to move forward 
on a constructive path.

Email, as you well know has evolved in ways that we never envisioned when the 
underlying protocols were developed. However, the inherent lack of security has 
allowed for behaviors that have both positive and unfortunately increasingly 
negative uses and effects. Nowadays the vast majority of known major beaches 
originated with a malicious email. Like many protective solutions, both virtual 
and physical, there are often side effects. Take for example the automobile 
seat belt. One may find that it irritates the shoulder on long rides, but I for 
one accept that for the protection it provides. Like the seat belt, I can 
choose not to use DMARC, but I do so at my own peril.



-----Original Message-----
From: Vlatko Salaj [[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 05:21 PM Eastern Standard Time
To: Talamo, Victor
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] confusing 3rd party support so it remains out


On Friday, June 6, 2014 10:56 PM, "Talamo, Victor" <[email protected]> 
wrote:


> With that said if you check the DMARC records for these domains today,
> the vast majority of these domains are DMARC REJECT comprising billions
> of emails.

billions of notification email. that barely anyone reads. and that
nobody cares if gets lost.

i can only hope to see real data on number of DMARC false-positives
in that billions of notification email, but i'm sure that would
just completely crash any trust in DMARC, so we will never see it.

exactly the reason behind DMARC being an independent document on IETF.

not that i care anymore. it's a waste of my time, obviously.

'nuff said.


--
Vlatko Salaj aka goodone
http://goodone.tk

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