On Fri 25/Oct/2024 00:13:43 +0200 John Levine wrote:
It appears that Murray S. Kucherawy  <[email protected]> said:

You raised ARC, which is the obvious answer, but I also concur with your point that we've fallen short of actually proving anything by collecting and publishing efficacy results, despite me asking more than once.

You're right, we don't. Large mail systems tell me that they find ARC somewhat useful but I don't expect it to get much more popular. Every recipient system needs to have an idea of whose ARC signatures they trust, and a fairly complicated analysis of the headers and that scales poorly.


Forwarder to receiver:  Hey, I'm going to put X on my mailing list/ dot-forward.

Receiver to user X: Did you ask forwarder to put your address on their mailing list/ dot-forward?

User X to receiver: Yes, I did.  I want that mail.

Receiver to forwarder: OK, I trust your ARC signature for said flow directed to 
X.


That way a receiver has to manage a list of forwarding recipes for each user. That is similar to the list of correspondent some spam filter used to maintain in order to whitelist known authors (before Yahoo leak), except that forwarding is authenticated.


Best
Ale
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